Total manual transmission SVXs on the Network

[Wikedjuggalo]

Originally Posted by Conn SVX

Y do you say I am guessing he has a CEL now ? do all 5 speed swaps come with a CEL????

96-97's are OBDII which will have a Check Engine light with a manual.

[Huskymaniac]

Just curious. Can you put the gear(s) for 6th gear on a 6MT in a 5MT for 5th gear?

[Conn SVX]

And what would the gain BE

[icingdeath88]

Originally Posted by Huskymaniac

Just curious. Can you put the gear(s) for 6th gear on a 6MT in a 5MT for 5th gear?

I am almost 100% sure, no. Would you be trying for a taller or shorter 5th gear?

[Nemesis Destiny]

Originally Posted by icingdeath88

I am almost 100% sure, no. Would you be trying for a taller or shorter 5th gear?

I can back this up with another 'almost 100% sure' answer of "no."

In the 6MT 5th & 6th come as a set and are, I think, on the same shaft. Internally (and externally for that matter) the two gearboxes are completely different. Different "families" even, for lack of a better word.

[Huskymaniac]

Originally Posted by icingdeath88

I am almost 100% sure, no. Would you be trying for a taller or shorter 5th gear?

Taller...assuming I get the difference correctly.

[Nemesis Destiny]

Originally Posted by Huskymaniac

Taller...assuming I get the difference correctly.

From what I recall, tallest top gear in any manual Subaru makes would be the Legacy Spec.B; 3.90 final drive with .707 6th. The JDM Forester STi also has the .707 6th, but I think it might have been 4.44 final drive.

Next highest, probably the more recent (08-09?) WRX with 3.70 diffs, and I think .738 5th gear. Other WRXes also get this 5th gear, but with 3.90s.

Ultimately, the 3.70 & .738 combo is the taller of the two, but not by any noticeable amount. The 3.90/.738 WRX is easier to find by far. USDM STi boxes are a good option if you want a 6MT - 3.90s with .756 6th (or something) - pretty close to the WRX.

Food for thought, if you're thinking about swapping.

I ended up with the same ratios as Icingdeath. My highway mileage went from about 30mpg to 25 or so, and I drive slower now (55-65mph instead of 70-75). If I could do it all over again, I would have gone for the Spec.B gearbox, despite not having a limited slip in the front diff. An LSD in the front can actually hurt street performance (cornering) unless you're driving through snow and slush or mud, which, most of us just don't do.

[icingdeath88]

Yes, it would be difficult to find an STi 6mt with as tall of a 6th gear as a WRX's 5th. The 6th gear isn't there for gas mileage. The goal is closer gearing throughout, so that you can always have the exact right gear to keep you in the rev range, to better utilize the turbo. The 6mt is for getting around the track (or w/e) faster and handling tons of power with ease.

I don't know how easy it would be to find a legacy spec B gearbox, but that sounds like it would be just the ticket for an SVX. And I'm sure you can have a LSD swapped in if you wanted.

Originally Posted by Nemesis Destiny

I ended up with the same ratios as Icingdeath. My highway mileage went from about 30mpg to 25 or so, and I drive slower now (55-65mph instead of 70-75). If I could do it all over again, I would have gone for the Spec.B gearbox, despite not having a limited slip in the front diff. An LSD in the front can actually hurt street performance (cornering) unless you're driving through snow and slush or mud, which, most of us just don't do.

Yea, I'm not crazy about the super short 5th and 6th gears. Not a good match for the mountains of low-end torque the EG33 has. Fun, sure, but not really that helpful that I've found. If I were to do it all over I'd use an '06 USDM 6mt. More reasonable gearing, not much compromise. I could probably even trade my V7 6mt for a DCCD one actually, if it were more practical. If it ever comes out, I'm going to get the 5th and 6th gearset from an 06 USDM sti and have them swapped in.

[Nemesis Destiny]

Originally Posted by icingdeath88

I don't know how easy it would be to find a legacy spec B gearbox, but that sounds like it would be just the ticket for an SVX. And I'm sure you can have a LSD swapped in if you wanted.

According to Alldata, they quote a new-from-dealer price of about $5500, last time I checked. Based on that, I haven't bothered to actually ask a dealership parts department. If I ever need to pull mine, I may inquire, assuming I can still get decent coin for my old one (or I'll save it for an offroad project).

Yea, I'm not crazy about the super short 5th and 6th gears. Not a good match for the mountains of low-end torque the EG33 has. Fun, sure, but not really that helpful that I've found. If I were to do it all over I'd use an '06 USDM 6mt. More reasonable gearing, not much compromise. I could probably even trade my V7 6mt for a DCCD one actually, if it were more practical.

Yeah, that's been my experience and conclusions as well.

If it ever comes out, I'm going to get the 5th and 6th gearset from an 06 USDM sti and have them swapped in.

I actually asked about this when I had my swap done. The guy doing it quoted me about 10 hours labour to swap the gears. A 5th & 6th gearset runs about $400, IIRC. I decided to live with the shorter ratios "for now." I put so few miles on my car now that I can't even justify it at all. Maybe someday.

[LetItSnow]

The 2008-2009 Spec B have the same 6th gear as the '08 US STI. I'm not sure about the '09 STI. These are by far the tallest gears you're going to get.

I have a hell of a time in some instances trying to mash into some people's heads that just because it's called 6th gear doesn't necessarily mean it's taller than 5th! The 5th gear in my '00 RS equipped Pearly is comparable to 6th in the Silver. The only real difference is the number of shifts it takes to get there. With the extra guts from the supercharger, I don't need to hit all the gears and usually skip some. It's a lot of rowing otherwise!

Er, back to your regularly scheduled list thread...

[Crazy_pilot]

Finally get to join the party!!

1. huck369- 5mt now CigarJohnny's
2. LetItSnow (previously Tomssvx's) - 6mt*
3. gsodonis- 5mt
4. ensteele- 5mt
5. alex_umn- 6mt
6. Earthworm- 5mt donor=2002 WRX 3.90 (2nd 5spd in Canada)
7. Subafreak- 6mt
8. GreenMarineSVX- 5mt
9. mbtoloczko- 5mt
10. Phast SVX- 5mt turbo
11. UT_SVX- 5mt
12. svxsubaru1- 5mt
13. mohrds- 5mt
14. wawazat- 5mt
15. svxtasy- 5mt turbo
16. Earthworm's dad- 5mt (previously belonging to Green1995SVX)
17. robricc 2002 WRX- 5mt
18. TXCESSVX- 5mt
19. SilVerXtc- 5mt
20. AvPPoW- 5mt
21. Huck369's parts car- 5mt
22. Shotgunslade- 5mt*
23. Rmjjensen- 5mt
24. Wiznutwrx- 5mt (previously TomsSVX's)*
25. Motorsport-Svx Silver 5mt (sold a few yrs ago)
26. ensteele- 5mt (previously TimH )
27. Want-a-fast-svx
28. Strange179- 5mt
29. Double0Bondo- 5spd
30. bcpianoman - 5mt, donor 2003 WRX 3.90 (Vancouver Island, British Columbia)
31. Mikecg- 6mt Stage III*
32. Speedklix - 4.11 5mt
33. kulaid - 5mt
34. Ricochet 4.11 5mt 04 RS*
35. SVXyGirl's brother (previously LetItSnow's) 4.11 5mt 00 RS*
36. Gest24 6mt 05wrx sti*
37. Sov13t 6mt 04wrx sti (svxfiles did the conversion)
38. bcpianoman's son - 5mt, donor 2004 WRX 3.90 (Vancouver Island, British Columbia)
39. Nemesis Destiny - 6MT; JDM v.8 (3rd 6MT in Canada to the best of my knowledge as of November '06)
40. Mr.Pwrlite - 5mt (since 4/03) Wow!, more converted SVX's than I thought.
41. svxcuseme- 5mt, 2002 WRX.
42. SVXBart- '04 Wrx 5mt*
43. AFBeefcake- 5mt 2002 WRX
44. Huck369 - 5mt 95 Impreza 3.90 (Just finished a 5-speed swap in my Pearl Yellow one)
45. Benehoc Racer - 5mt*
46. Steven_esworthy - 5mt WRX
47. Pat from Pgh. (Not yet on The Network) 5mt, 1993 SVX
48. Pat from Pgh. (Not yet on The Network) 5mt, 1992 SVX
49. Porschekiller - 4.44 5mt*
50. SVXRide - 3.90 5mt w / R180*
51. Reading Raffle Car - 4.11 wrx 5mt* (Now SVXBart's)
52. Marlepat - 3.9 Imp
53. JaySVX - 3.90 WRX 5MT*
54. Nforcer - 4.11 legacy GT 5mt
55. Lockleaf - 5mt, 99 Impreza
56. Johnybeas- 5mt, 02 WRX
57. BenSVX - 5mt, Impreza
58. jeffast - Just killed a legacy 4.11, soon with impreza 3.9
59. Guyver280Z - 5mt Forester
60. SVXapeal- 5mt '04 WRX
61. subster – 5mt 02 WRX
62. Petesvxny- 5mt 4.11 legacy gt
63. Tim - 3.90 5mt w / 3.545 rear diff*
64. GreggBzz - 4.11 5mt*
65. NikFu S. - 02 WRX 5MT
66. LiquidForce 5mt
67. Djsvxxl- 07 wrx 5mt*
68. f1svx - 3.90 5mt installed 2002
69. SVX10 - STi gearset 5MT installed 2005ish
70. sicksubie - 07 Sti 6mt
71. Mike621- 98 4.11 5mt*
72. Shelfy- 05 LGT 5mt*
73. Jokethis89- 98 Legacy 4.11 5mt
74. RoughSilver92- 06 2.5i 3.90 5MT
75. Stiguy- 03 wrx 5MT
76. Jim Lough- 07 WRX 5mt*
77. -JJ- - WRX 5MT
78. The_Paynter- 2002 V7 STI 6mt/DCCD 3.90 (This car was parted out and non-DCCD)
79. 95greensvx - 92 ls-l 5mt
80. Wikedjuggalo - 5mt 3.90
81. Alex-svx - 5mt 3.900
82. Gamesy - 5mt 04 WRX
83. Ridered777 - 5mt 96 legacy 3.9?
84. Icingdeath88 - 6mt 2002 JDM STi V7 (non-DCCD) 3.900
85. Crazy_Pilot - 2007 USDM 6MT

[1986nate]

Originally Posted by SVXyGirl

Fixed...

1. huck369- 5mt now CigarJohnny's
2. Somethingelse - 6mt* (previously Tomssvx, Letitsnow)
3. gsodonis- 5mt
4. ensteele- 5mt
5. alex_umn- 6mt
6. Earthworm- 5mt donor=2002 WRX 3.90 (2nd 5spd in Canada)
7. Subafreak- 6mt
8. GreenMarineSVX- 5mt
9. mbtoloczko- 5mt
10. Phast SVX- 5mt turbo
11. UT_SVX- 5mt
12. svxsubaru1- 5mt
13. mohrds- 5mt
14. wawazat- 5mt
15. svxtasy- 5mt turbo
16. Earthworm's dad- 5mt (previously belonging to Green1995SVX)
17. robricc 2002 WRX- 5mt
18. TXCESSVX- 5mt
19. SilVerXtc- 5mt
20. AvPPoW- 5mt
21. Huck369's parts car- 5mt
22. Shotgunslade- 5mt*
23. Rmjjensen- 5mt
24. Wiznutwrx- 5mt (previously TomsSVX's)*
25. Motorsport-Svx Silver 5mt (sold a few yrs ago)
26. ensteele- 5mt (previously TimH )
27. Want-a-fast-svx
28. Strange179- 5mt
29. Double0Bondo- 5spd
30. bcpianoman - 5mt, donor 2003 WRX 3.90 (Vancouver Island, British Columbia)
31. Mikecg- 6mt Stage III*
32. Speedklix - 4.11 5mt
33. kulaid - 5mt
34. Ricochet 4.11 5mt 04 RS*
35. SVXyGirl (previously LetItSnow's) 4.11 5mt 00 RS* (After KT's "passing", believe she took it back from her brother)
36. Gest24 6mt 05wrx sti*
37. Sov13t 6mt 04wrx sti (svxfiles did the conversion)
38. bcpianoman's son - 5mt, donor 2004 WRX 3.90 (Vancouver Island, British Columbia)
39. Nemesis Destiny - 6MT; JDM v.8 (3rd 6MT in Canada to the best of my knowledge as of November '06)
40. Mr.Pwrlite - 5mt (since 4/03) Wow!, more converted SVX's than I thought.
41. svxcuseme- 5mt, 2002 WRX.
42. SVXBart- '04 Wrx 5mt*
43. ConnSVX- 5mt 2002 WRX (previously AFBeefcake)
44. Huck369 - 5mt 95 Impreza 3.90 (Just finished a 5-speed swap in my Pearl Yellow one)
45. SVXfiles Racer - 5mt* (Previously benehoc racing)
46. Steven_esworthy - 5mt WRX
47. Pat from Pgh. (Not yet on The Network) 5mt, 1993 SVX
48. Pat from Pgh. (Not yet on The Network) 5mt, 1992 SVX
49. Porschekiller - 4.44 5mt*
50. SVXRide - 3.90 5mt w / R180*
51. Reading Raffle Car - 4.11 wrx 5mt* (Now SVXBart's)
52. Marlepat - 3.9 Imp
53. JaySVX - 3.90 WRX 5MT*
54. Nforcer - 4.11 legacy GT 5mt
55. Lockleaf - 5mt, 99 Impreza
56. Johnybeas- 5mt, 02 WRX
57. BenSVX - 5mt, Impreza
58. jeffast - Just killed a legacy 4.11, soon with impreza 3.9
59. Guyver280Z - 5mt Forester
60. SVXapeal- 5mt '04 WRX
61. subster – 5mt 02 WRX
62. Petesvxny- 5mt 4.11 legacy gt
63. Tim - 3.90 5mt w / 3.545 rear diff*
64. GreggBzz - 4.11 5mt*
65. NikFu S. - 02 WRX 5MT
66. LiquidForce 5mt
67. Djsvxxl- 07 wrx 5mt*
68. f1svx - 3.90 5mt installed 2002
69. SVX10 - STi gearset 5MT installed 2005ish
70. sicksubie - 07 Sti 6mt (Trans now in Crazypilot's-car parted)
71. Mike621- 98 4.11 5mt*
72. Shelfy- 05 LGT 5mt*
73. Jokethis89- 98 Legacy 4.11 5mt
74. RoughSilver92- 06 2.5i 3.90 5MT
75. Stiguy- 03 wrx 5MT
76. Jim Lough- 07 WRX 5mt*
77. -JJ- - WRX 5MT
78. The_Paynter- 2002 V7 STI 6mt/DCCD 3.90 (This car was parted out and non-DCCD) (Correct me if I'm wrong, but this went into Icingdeath's pearlie and now his laguna?)
79. 95greensvx - 92 ls-l 5mt
80. Wikedjuggalo - 5mt 3.90
81. Alex-svx - 5mt 3.900
82. Gamesy - 5mt 04 WRX
83. Ridered777 - 5mt 96 legacy 3.9?
84. Icingdeath88 - 6mt 2002 JDM STi V7 (non-DCCD) 3.900
85. Radarwhiz - 5mt '93 legacy turbo 3.90
86. Lazer- 5mt
87. Gearhead843- 97 LSi, 4.11 5mt from 99 Outback-done by 1986nate (car is for sale on craigslist by new owner)
88. Green1995svx-4.11 5mt from 2005 Forester-done by 1986nate
89. Crazy_Pilot - 2007 USDM 6MT

Included a few stragglers and updated some info.
Updates in bold.

[Chuckls]

Add me to the list soon

[radarwhiz]

I should be on there. '92 Lsl Claret- '93 Legacy Turbo 5sp

[1986nate]

Originally Posted by radarwhiz

I should be on there. '92 Lsl Claret- '93 Legacy Turbo 5sp

look at #85