SUPER NOOB Question... Been a long day

[Speedklix]

budfreaks tip is a great one to know... but without a diagram most people I'm sure won't understand what is being described... Don't just roll your eyes when it slides off the first time, play with the wrenches to get them lined up right, it is a great tip.

[Budfreak]

Originally Posted by Speedklix

budfreaks tip is a great one to know... but without a diagram most people I'm sure won't understand what is being described.

Yeah, I couldn't think of a way to really describe it and I don't have 2 wrenches handy to take pictures for a clear understanding.

[stallion]

Oh I never thought about just undoing the 20 bolts first.... wouldnt like.... a WATERFALL of AT fluid come crashing down, though?

Oh my friend explained what a breaker bar was.. and here I was thinking its a part that you buy... sorry guys I am pretty damned noob. I really wish I lived near someone like Budfreak or Tom so I can just take it to them or something (since the shops and stealerships are out to getcha)

[stallion]

By the way the box end doesnt even fit on the bolt anymore... but the crescent does.

[TomsSVX]

pipe wrench... Its about your only avenue out now I say grab up a new pan before you further. This way you have a new plug and all. I am sure there is a J-yard around you... grab another suby trans pan circa 1990-1997

Tom

[SVX_MY_BABY]

Originally Posted by stallion

By the way the box end doesn't even fit on the bolt anymore... but the crescent does.

If you haven't bought a good quality socket that might do the trick. A breaker bar doesn't cost that much. (or you may be able to rent one).

Anybody think an impact driver would work? They're invaluable on motorcycles.

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by stallion

Oh my friend explained what a breaker bar was.. and here I was thinking its a part that you buy... sorry guys I am pretty damned noob.

well, you can buy a breaker bar - its just a long bar that you can stick a socket on the end of.



in some cases this is needed over the other flavor of breaker bar - the long pipe stuck over the wrench for added leverage.

[ensteele]

Leaverage is the name of the game.

[Chris]

Working to get that much torque while working under the car is an act serious frustration. In my opinion, I would remove all but 4 bolts from the pan, but still loosen the remaining 4. Then slowly remove one at a time, to allow the pan to tilt down and drain. Then remove the last bolt and pan and work on it in a bench vice and wood. If this is not available to you, take it to a shop and pay a few bunch to buzz off the drain plug with a pneumatic impact. Keep in mind that is this much power is required to remove, there is a high likely chance that the threads will be damaged. The threaded hole might need to be cleaned up, or even reworked and threaded to the next size up. All of this will need more of the shop like tools unless you have a very nice tap and die set laying around.

Again, my advice is to remove the pan and take it to a machine shop. They would charge the least, and have the easiest capabilities to repair what ever might have already been done. It might even require welding in a new piece of metal in the drain area. I have had to do this to an oil drain pain when some money at a lube joint thought 200 ft/pounds was the proper torque setting for my oil drain plug. Fortunately, it was not my SVX!

And by all means don't think you are a noob because some gorilla with 22" canons did a work out on your drain plug. Without proper tools, even the simplest of tasks can be mountains to overcome. I might not be an "active" mechanic now, but I did work at the Subaru stealership for 2 years.

[Crazy_pilot]

This is (I believe) the trick Budfreak mentioned. Very handy when you've already got a wrench on something and need some more leverage.

Note: Spark plus is used from demonstration only and is not included in kit.



As shown here I would be pulling down. If I tried pushing the wrench would just slide apart.

And a closeup on the connection:

[stallion]

Ah genius.. I used a short pipe that's used for the jack and did something like that... bolt got STRIPPED! I went to the junkyard and saw a pearlie.. tried the tranny bolt since it was on donut wheels which is pretty high... THAT DIDNT COME OUT EITHER! I have some HORRIBLE luck with tranny pan bolts... so I gave up and took my car to the local shop to change fluid... HE COULDNT GET IT OUT EITHER, but he did Chris' idea, worked very well.. he got a shower.. glad I paid the money to avoid a spray of "blood" in my face.

Thanks alot guys, now I know how to make a makeshift breaker bar in the future

[It's Just Eric]

The most valuable thing you can get for your car is a complete metric socet set. 6 point socets are much better than the 12 point ones, makes the nut impossible to strip. Might wanna look into getting a new crush flange for the tranny drain plug (Its the thing that looks like a washer)
Midaswell get one for the oil and diff plugs too, as they are supposed to be replaced with every fluid change

[Chris]

Glad you are back in business and other than a shower of tranny fluid, you did so without serious injury.