The beginnings of a Megasquirt how-to guide - Page 6

dragoontwo · #76 08-13-2013, 12:00 PM

It can be done easily. Why limit yourself by using the stock ignitor that will only work with a handful of coils, instead of using the MS2 to drive ANY coil you would want to swap onto it.

Obviously my first post was aimed at the stock ignitor, and not any ignitor. I simply stated that the MS2 can do it, and it can.

BackWoodsBob · #77 08-13-2013, 12:05 PM

Found an MS2 system for 300 shipped on ebay.
Looking more and more likely that's what I'll go with...

BRZCory · #78 08-13-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BackWoodsBob

Found an MS2 system for 300 shipped on ebay.
Looking more and more likely that's what I'll go with...

Just be wary, and make sure you get a jimstim or megasim or whatnot so that you can bench test it upon arrival. I imagine that there are a lot of kids out there who decided they wanted one, tried putting it together, and didn't realize that capacitors/diodes/etc have polarity, or didn't think that resistor codes were important/etc.

Hell, I tested mine in the parking lot when I got mine.

icingdeath88 · #79 08-13-2013, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoontwo

It can be done easily. Why limit yourself by using the stock ignitor that will only work with a handful of coils, instead of using the MS2 to drive ANY coil you would want to swap onto it.

Obviously my first post was aimed at the stock ignitor, and not any ignitor. I simply stated that the MS2 can do it, and it can.

No, your first post said that you can use the MS2 to drive the stock coils without an ignitor, and you can't, at least not out of the box. You need to either use the stock ignitor, add ignitors inside the MS2 case, use smart coils, or some other ignitor, but there definitely needs to be one.

BackWoodsBob · #80 08-13-2013, 12:14 PM

It's direct from diypnp, in kit form.

icingdeath88 · #81 08-13-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BackWoodsBob

It's direct from diypnp, in kit form.

Make sure the DIYPNP kit comes with the nippon denso 76 pin adapter: http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/d...kit-p-384.html

BRZCory · #82 08-13-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dragoontwo

You should be able to batch fire our coils directly from the MS2 and not need to use the ignitor.

How do you go from "and not need to use the ignitor" to "My first post was aimed at the stock ignitor"?

The megasquirt will not handle "any" coil (or most, if not all coils). It will however handle "any" ignitor. The stock ignitor included.

BackWoodsBob · #83 08-13-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by icingdeath88

Make sure the DIYPNP kit comes with the nippon denso 76 pin adapter: http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/d...kit-p-384.html

it is

. The only thing I'd need to buy is the 60$ diybob board. So it would be the same price for the AEM FIC6, or for a complete standalone. The major difference is the fic6 would be easier to tune. haha.

icingdeath88 · #84 08-13-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BackWoodsBob

it is

. The only thing I'd need to buy is the 60$ diybob board. So it would be the same price for the AEM FIC6, or for a complete standalone. The major difference is the fic6 would be easier to tune. haha.

No, I think the DIY PNP boards are meant to plug straight into the stock ECU plugs. Like the BOB and ECU combined in the same case. But you should double check that.

BackWoodsBob · #85 08-13-2013, 12:47 PM

Ah, I thought earlier in your thread we discussed this and you said I'd need a diybob to make it truly plug and play?

Now I'm

I really need to call diy and ask'em exactly what I need to make it pnp.

icingdeath88 · #86 08-13-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BackWoodsBob

Ah, I thought earlier in your thread we discussed this and you said I'd need a diybob to make it truly plug and play?

Now I'm

I really need to call diy and ask'em exactly what I need to make it pnp.

Take a closer look at the DIYPNP kits. I thought they were the MS2 ECU + DIYBOB sold as a package, but it looks like they're combined in one case.

BackWoodsBob · #87 08-13-2013, 01:23 PM

Yer correct.

'OEM ECU Connector to plug right into the factory harness!'

dragoontwo · #88 08-13-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BRZCory

How do you go from "and not need to use the ignitor" to "My first post was aimed at the stock ignitor"?

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Originally Posted by BRZCory

This. Although I'm still trying to figure out how to get MS2 to output 6 coil signals. I don't want to use the wasted spark because I'm not sure that the stock ignitor can handle that much current without some sort of ground upgrade. There are lots of options out there though if I can't get it working.

Also, as I hear, the signal should be set to Inverted(High), correct? At less than 5ms, and around 2.3ms for dwell (or is it duration?)

Worst-case scenario: EDIS6
The megasquirt will not handle "any" coil (or most, if not all coils). It will however handle "any" ignitor. The stock ignitor included.

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Originally Posted by dragoontwo

You should be able to batch fire our coils directly from the MS2 and not need to use the ignitor.

Since you guys are more interested in bashing me instead of taking anything I say into consideration here you go. My reply did mean the stock ignitor, and I did not say without any ignitor. I even went so far as to point out where it is. I guess you guys know everything and "you got this".

BackWoodsBob · #89 08-13-2013, 02:54 PM

hey wow there charley, no bashing going on.

dragoontwo · #90 08-13-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BackWoodsBob

hey wow there charley, no bashing going on.

To paraphrase:

Hey guys i wanna do this thing.

-Hey, you can do this.

Nuh uh.

-Yeah, let me look for it.
-Oh, here it is.

That's not exactly what you said!

-You can do it.

You didn't exactly say that thing I said.

-Screw you guys, I'm going home.