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PhaseII 4eat Swap
Is it possible? Yes it is.
After working for the past two days Hocrest, Melis, and myself have completed the first documented Phase II 4eat swap. Now, I don't even want to get into the wiring involved right now as it is EXTREMELY extensive. BUT the hardware is a direct bolt up... Here is a list of hard parts you will need. 1. Transmission 2. Torque converter (they are different) 3. Oil pump drive (they are different too) 4. 3-4ft. of new transmission cooler soft line 5. Flex plate 6. TCU (for a 6cyl) 7. Starter 8. Matching rear diff (most likely a 4.44) We have two issues right now that we need to iron out still. 1. The speed sensor #2 reads a MUCH higher reading than ours did, so we need to find a way to convert the signal to match our dash. 2. There are two torque control signals from the TCU, right now we only used one of them but we are looking into solutions for this to get rid of the code.(Yes, Subaru uses torque control in their new transmissions for the same reason they did in ours, safety of transmission internals) Tom |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
Wow... Good job tom and associates .
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1994 SVX L - FWD Barcelona Red 190K miles ~ SOLD 1994 SVX LS - 5spd AWD Emerald Green 202k miles PWR Radiator, HID 5000k, New paint job with issues, 17" STI BBS wheels, converted to 5spd AWD from FWD. Purchased from SVXyGirl 2/20/09 -- Undergoing complete rebuild 1993 Justy 4wd 5door- Teal of sorts , beater. 2008 OBXT Newport Pearl 65k miles |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
Kind of Subaru does a Phase II 4eat come out of?
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1992 LSL ebony pearl 170k - Thank you Ron Mummert Reading Box of Wine Car ----------------------------------- 1992 SVX LSL 5-Speed Sold at 180K 2019 1995 SVX Lsi Polo Sold at 118K 2007 |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
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1994 SVX L - FWD Barcelona Red 190K miles ~ SOLD 1994 SVX LS - 5spd AWD Emerald Green 202k miles PWR Radiator, HID 5000k, New paint job with issues, 17" STI BBS wheels, converted to 5spd AWD from FWD. Purchased from SVXyGirl 2/20/09 -- Undergoing complete rebuild 1993 Justy 4wd 5door- Teal of sorts , beater. 2008 OBXT Newport Pearl 65k miles |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
Phase II = external spin-on filter, among other things. I posted a PDF a while back about the 4EAT and their differences, here it is:
http://endwrench.com/images/pdfs/4EAT.pdf
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1992 SVX LS-L #1222 Pearl White 1987 GL Turbo wagon, 5 lug conversion, D/R 5 speed (Rice killer) 1992 Dodge Ram 4x4 diesel (car hauler) 1968 Dodge Polara convertible (Camaro killer) 1990 Toyota Corolla FWD auto (330,000 mile grocery getter) 1986 VW Jetta |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
WOOT! Now for a 5EAT!
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Chris 92 Ebony Mica LS-L "A Rolling Restoration": 223,250 KM - Sleeping 2007 STi 6MT, Stance GR+ coilovers, PWR Rad, JDM hood badge, svxfiles 6000K HIDs, JDM Clear Corners, $15/15 min mod, $20/20 min mod, Energy Swaybar Bushings, Hella Supertones horns, Gold STi BBS rims, Group A lightweight crank pulley, A/C system removed, Custom header-back exhaust, Hybrid carbon/metal rear sway bar, restored headlights with CCFL halos 2008 Subaru Legacy Spec B - Diamond Grey Metallic - Sold 2020 Ram 1500 Longhorn - Red Pearl |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
Quote:
A better box. Harvey.
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One Arm Bloke. Tell it like it is! 95 Lsi. Bordeaux Pearl, Aust. RHD.149,000Kls Subaru BBS wheels. 97 Liberty GX Auto sedan. 320,000Kls. 04 Liberty 30R Auto Premium. 92.000kls. |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
If only they didn't cost so damned much... This whole project has been an idea of mine for a long time. Dave and Melis put up the parts and a car and let me have at it. But honestly the time put into making jumper harnesses (so it could always be returned to stock) wouldn't make the swap worth it if I was charging them to do it. BUT a 5eat w/ paddle shifters.... Thats the ultimate goal and this was just my stepping stone to make sure I could do it Now to find a 5eat in Harry's for $45... that would be awful nice
Tom |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
I'll keep my eye's open...
Yeah, the wiring is huge. There should be some pics up tomorrow...
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Dave - 03 Baja - 92 SVX - 86 Brat - 08 OB 3.0 |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
Wait maybe 15 years and that might come true! How many SVXii will be driving at the 30th anniversary meet I wonder? Earl will probably own most of them.
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Chris 92 Ebony Mica LS-L "A Rolling Restoration": 223,250 KM - Sleeping 2007 STi 6MT, Stance GR+ coilovers, PWR Rad, JDM hood badge, svxfiles 6000K HIDs, JDM Clear Corners, $15/15 min mod, $20/20 min mod, Energy Swaybar Bushings, Hella Supertones horns, Gold STi BBS rims, Group A lightweight crank pulley, A/C system removed, Custom header-back exhaust, Hybrid carbon/metal rear sway bar, restored headlights with CCFL halos 2008 Subaru Legacy Spec B - Diamond Grey Metallic - Sold 2020 Ram 1500 Longhorn - Red Pearl |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
I just got a 2003 OB trans there. I figure I'll start to see 5 speeds in 2-3 years.
And I plan to be driving mine well past the 30th meet
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Dave - 03 Baja - 92 SVX - 86 Brat - 08 OB 3.0 |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
Sweet!
Great Work guys, as that'll open up replacement trannys considerably
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Huck Subaru Ambassador 92 SVX LS-Tour Magnaflow Exhaust, 5-Spd-AWD 88 XT6 AWD 5-Speed "Bride of FrankenWedge" 15 Impreza Premium Sedan 15 Crosstrek XV 5-Speed My 5-Speed "How-To" Write-up 1976 Pontiac Firebird Formula Current Count of Subaru's Owned.... "70" |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
Ok, I found a speedometer correction circuit board in the magazine Trevor had suggested to me quite some time ago (Performance Electronics for Cars). So I will have Dave/Melis order one of those so we can build and install it. This will rectify the speedo issue. No it is just finding out how to get that torque control code to go away while retaining its function
Tom |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
This should do the trick
May take a while to get it here but it should be our speedometer solution Tom |
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Re: PhaseII 4eat Swap
back it today w/ a new trans after the front diff took a crap on us last time. We have it driving again. Unfortunately we were not able to get the torque control working properly, so we still do not have a fix for that. We were able to get the speedo corrector to work properly and dial in the speedo using a GPS to fine tune it. Now it is buttoning up the interior and mounting the new trans computer and speedo corrector. I have advised Dave and Melis to take it easy off the line, considering the shifts are much smoother than the PhaseI transmissions, I think it will be OK during shifts w/o the torque control. I don't like it, but right now I do not have a solution to fix it so we are going to have to make due.
Yay Tom |
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