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Re: alternator wires
I cut those wires back to where they'll be shielded by that plastic wire holder.
Just gotta find a place round Dunedin that'll sell 4ga wire with a built in fuse. HMMMM. |
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Re: alternator wires
nice, thanks for the info svxcess.
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And the BEST fuses for high-current alternator fusing applications is the Mega Fuse by Littlefuse. ,
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. Subaru Ambassador 1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995..... Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan In-Service Date: January 2, 1997 "The Pristine Green Polo Machine” First Polo Green on the Network First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000) First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007) First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013) HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler. R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016 2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ...178,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback 2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles. Plenty of parts, service and windshields. 4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001 My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX . . |
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Re: alternator wires
I still have the stock wiring going to the alternator plug though. Hence why it's still there..I was wrestling with that sum***** earlier. Cut my finger.
Last edited by Chuckls; 09-19-2011 at 03:11 PM. |
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Re: alternator wires
Also, I'm working on a budget, as I only have 180 bucks for a front diff, oil change, and wiring.
Wiring is being done on Friday, so I can't order anything. |
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Re: alternator wires
i would definitely remove that plastic channel and trim those 2 white wires (that were originally attached to the alternator) back to the other side of the A/C compressor and join them to each other and tape them securely.
Run the remaining exposed wires to the alternator plug through some of that split-loom plastic tubing if you do nothing else. Wiring isn't in the best of shape. You can run just the 4 gauge power cable from the alternator post to the battery and add the fuse later (as close to the battery as possible). Just be sure you have matching 4 gauge ground cables from the battery to the frame and battery to engine. .
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. Subaru Ambassador 1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995..... Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan In-Service Date: January 2, 1997 "The Pristine Green Polo Machine” First Polo Green on the Network First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000) First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007) First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013) HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler. R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016 2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ...178,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback 2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles. Plenty of parts, service and windshields. 4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001 My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX . . Last edited by svxcess; 09-19-2011 at 07:31 PM. |
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Re: alternator wires
Edit x2: Nvm..i went back and re-read and figured it out!
Edit #3: Got my wiring ordered!! 23 bucks Kolossus Fleks Kable 4 Gauge Black Power/Ground Wire -5ft Gold Plated 4 Gauge Ring Terminal -Black -5 Set Screw Ring Terminals - 4 Gauge Pair All I need are battery ends..which I assume I can pick up from Vatozone for like 6 bucks. and some Misc. wire loom Last edited by Chuckls; 09-19-2011 at 05:34 PM. |
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Re: alternator wires
Wait, so do the two white wires that go to the + post on the alternator get replaced or do you just add the 4 gauge cable?
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Re: alternator wires
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You cut them to behind the AC condensor lines..then wrap them up. Run new wire to battery from the top post. |
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read pages 4 & 5 of the write up HERE
Don't over-analyze this, it's not that complicated... I will say, in on honesty, that after I did this mod, there was a little hesitation when turning the key and starting the engine. it sounded too simple, but the wiring schematic made sense. A lot of research, and discussions with those more knowledgable in this area, made this happen. Before this alteration, all we were doing is adding wires to "upgrade" the configuration to make up for deficiencies of our corroded aging wires. .
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. Subaru Ambassador 1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995..... Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan In-Service Date: January 2, 1997 "The Pristine Green Polo Machine” First Polo Green on the Network First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000) First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007) First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013) HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler. R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016 2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ...178,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback 2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles. Plenty of parts, service and windshields. 4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001 My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX . . |
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Re: alternator wires
do the wires still serve a purpose once off the alternator?
only reason i ask cause they are corroded all the way to the base of the fusebox. i dont wanna have to hack that wiring harness apart if i dont need too......
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Re: alternator wires
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If you do not want to disturb your harness, just ADD a 4 gauge wire to the alternator from the battery and ADD the upgraded grounds. This is the basic alternator wiring upgrade from years ago, The current will always follow the path of least resistance (the new wires) and ignore the old corroded wiring. However, the old wiring is brittle and subject to insulation breaking off or the wires breaking altogether. Since there is battery voltage and amps involved, a short is something to be avoided. Those hot wires run dangerously close to the engine, A/C compressor, etc., and can unexpectedly fail and come in contact with ground. Removing these wires from the proximity of any engine part and isolating and insulating them is far more preferable. That's over 800A of battery power going straight to ground. Prevention in advance is always sound. Your fusebox will thank you. .
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. Subaru Ambassador 1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995..... Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan In-Service Date: January 2, 1997 "The Pristine Green Polo Machine” First Polo Green on the Network First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000) First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007) First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013) HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler. R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016 2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ...178,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback 2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles. Plenty of parts, service and windshields. 4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001 My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX . . |
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Re: alternator wires
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If you do not want to disturb your harness, just ADD a 4 gauge wire to the alternator from the battery and ADD the upgraded grounds. This is the basic alternator wiring upgrade from years ago, The current will always follow the path of least resistance (the new wires) and ignore the old corroded wiring (which is still a ticking time bomb). However, the old wiring is brittle with age and continued exposure to heat and subject to insulation breaking off or the wires breaking altogether. Since there is battery voltage and amps involved, a short is something to be avoided at all costs. Longer wires are subject to more stress and vibration, even without the age factor. Those "hot" wires run dangerously close to the engine, A/C compressor, etc., and can unexpectedly fail and come in contact with ground. Removing these wires from the proximity of any engine part and isolating and insulating them is far more preferable. That's over 800A of battery power going straight to ground. Prevention in advance is always sound. Your fuse box will thank you. . .
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. Subaru Ambassador 1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995..... Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan In-Service Date: January 2, 1997 "The Pristine Green Polo Machine” First Polo Green on the Network First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000) First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007) First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013) HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler. R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016 2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ...178,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback 2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles. Plenty of parts, service and windshields. 4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001 My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX . . |
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Re: alternator wires
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i cut the cable and stripped the jacket off and a good 4inches were black and brittle. i do plan on doing the 4g wire mod since i'm already upgrading the alternator. i'm just wondering if i just clean whatevers exposed then just tape it up and seal it and it has nothing to do with the system?
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Re: alternator wires
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Clean up the oxidized surface of each wire with emery cloth or a wire brush, twist them tightly together or crimp them. Use heat shrink tubing and some of the rubber self-fusing tape to seal them and leave them be. They have to be joined together for the circuits to stay in place; DO NOT just remove both wires and tape them separately . As part of my "Aternator 101" (in the How-to Documents) I say: "When our wires were new, uncorroded and in peak condition, all terminals were securely attached and all grounds were clean and shiny with good contact points, things may have been adequate. But internal resistance due to heat, corrosion and age of materials have taken their toll and decreased the amount of current they were originally designed to carry. Back then, without high-power stereos and other accessories, 95A may have been adequate..." Resistance in the power cable will result in a power (amperage) loss. So the larger the cable, within reason, the less the resistance. If you don't think this is true, try jump-starting a car with a set of cheap 14 gauge jumper cables. With the thinner wires, internal resistance to current flow cause them to heat up more quickly-- and that is where your current is lost. A heavier set of wires won't have the same resistance and will heat up much more slowly, allowing maximum current transfer to the other car.' Corrosion or wrong wire size = resistance = heat=power loss. If you haven't read over ALTERNATOR 101, you can find it HERE Good charts and stats and questions that are usually raised There is not much more that a can comment on in this thread. Photos and explanations are as clear as I can make them in the NEW ALTERNATOR WIRING CONFIGURATION v.4 It will make sense when you do it, Just take time and care to do it correctly and don't cut corners and you will be fine. .
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. Subaru Ambassador 1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995..... Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan In-Service Date: January 2, 1997 "The Pristine Green Polo Machine” First Polo Green on the Network First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000) First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007) First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013) HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler. R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016 2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ...178,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback 2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles. Plenty of parts, service and windshields. 4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001 My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX . . Last edited by svxcess; 09-20-2011 at 07:47 AM. |
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