Fifteen minute, $15.00 rear suspension mod.

[James Scott]

Would this MOD be appropriate for my SVX if I already have poly swaybar bushings.. ??

Thanks, Jim

[svxfiles]

Yes, however the price went up slightly in the last six years.

[James Scott]

I thot I'd ask before installing.. . BUT, I bot for $8 each at Autozone last nite.. .

So, this crossmember supports the rear diff.. and allows some wobble.. or noise in drivetrain function.. . but doesn't actually affect the rear suspension directly.. . RiGhT?

Thanks, Jim

[James Scott]

Originally Posted by svxfiles

I have had three sets on my Claret since I did my first set, to stiffen up the subframe to car mounts.
I could only feel the differance the first set makes.

When you say three sets.. Do you mean three different pairs you used.. in the same two mounts we're talking about here? I'm a little slow.. . Or do you mean installed somewhere else.. like above AND below rubber coated washers.. or subframe mounts.. ?? Sorry.. I'm Old... ReAlLy OLD!

Thanks, Jim

[James Scott]

BTW... When I looked up this rear crossmember part in the OEM manual (under AWD System, SEC 2&3, 3-4, pg 9).. It appears the torque spec is about 39-48 ft-lbs. [If you were torqueing to 100+ ft-lbs.. . maybe that's why the same 3 threads were showing? .. Ha!] Does this nut bottom out.. metal to metal? I guess it'd have to.. or it'd come loose.

So, with this MOD, the added rubber (tire donuts) cushions take over.. for not only the up/down movement (rubber stoppers).. but also for the torsional movement.. normally controlled by the crossmember bushing that the threaded post passes thru.. right? [Because the cushions take up all up/down slack.. but also press so hard on the outer rim of the crossmember bushing.. the bushing rubber is no longer in play.] Hmmm?

Interesting.. .

Thanks, Jim

[svxfiles]

Originally Posted by James Scott

BTW... When I looked up this rear crossmember part in the OEM manual (under AWD System, SEC 2&3, 3-4, pg 9).. It appears the torque spec is about 39-48 ft-lbs. [If you were torqueing to 100+ ft-lbs.. . maybe that's why the same 3 threads were showing? .. Ha!] Does this nut bottom out.. metal to metal? I guess it'd have to.. or it'd come loose.

So, with this MOD, the added rubber (tire donuts) cushions take over.. for not only the up/down movement (rubber stoppers).. but also for the torsional movement.. normally controlled by the crossmember bushing that the threaded post passes thru.. right? [Because the cushions take up all up/down slack.. but also press so hard on the outer rim of the crossmember bushing.. the bushing rubber is no longer in play.] Hmmm?

Interesting.. .

Thanks, Jim

Yes, all six subframe bolts.
The subframe is a VERY substantial structural member.
The body is also a very strong structrural member.
By bolting them together, THEY become stronger and flex less.

[James Scott]

It seems their purpose is to give some flex, but mainly support to the suspension and drivetrain. So, this MOD just stiffens the flex up.. resulting in better driveability.. . THAT's WILD! (Johnny Carson)

COOL!

Seems like you could do it with the car on the ground.. or wud the crossmember drop when unbolted due to weight of rear diff.. ?

Thanks, Jim

[svxfiles]

"I" could not wiggle under an SVX WITHOUT it at least being up on ramps.
If you do one side at at a time it does not drop too much.
I have no idea of what James Scott, or anyone else can/could be speaking of!
"This can't be happening, This cannot be happening!

[James Scott]

Originally Posted by svxfiles

"I" could not wiggle under an SVX WITHOUT it at least being up on ramps.
If you do one side at at a time it does not drop too much.
I am speaking of the Official Fifteen Minute mod, not the top secret overkill that I did.(do)

PEES! .. Oh PLEEEZ! Tell us.. the ToP SeCrEt OvErKiLL MOD.. ???

[I bet its adding the cushions.. while driving! .. .

Oh NO! Now I know .. . It's the 6-cushion SpEcIaL! .. Huh!?

Jim

[svxfiles]

Originally Posted by James Scott

PEES! .. Oh PLEEEZ! Tell us.. the ToP SeCrEt OvErKiLL MOD.. ???

[I bet its adding the cushions.. while driving! .. .

Oh NO! Now I know .. . It's the 6-cushion SpEcIaL! .. Huh!?

Jim

DUDE?!
What are you talkin about?!

[James Scott]

Boy.. It really IS Top Secret!

[long day..]

[James Scott]

OK! .. Got 15 Min MOD in place! Seems tighter stiffer suspension in rear. I like.

Just need the 15 Min FRONT SUSPENSION MOD now!

I guess it's the Motor Mounts and AT Mount.. as mentioned earlier.. .

Thanks for the idea SVXfiles et al!

Jim

[svxfiles]

Originally Posted by James Scott

OK! .. Got 15 Min MOD in place! Seems tighter stiffer suspension in rear. I like.

Just need the 15 Min FRONT SUSPENSION MOD now!

I guess it's the Motor Mounts and AT Mount.. as mentioned earlier.. .

Thanks for the idea SVXfiles et al!

Jim

Go with the Poly front bushings on the front,
and rear, with the Twenty Minute Mod in back,
OR the Poly bushings in front and an upgraded REAR bar that comes with rear Polys!
Nevin has one now,
Dayle (Motorsports Warehouse) is going to come out with one.

[James Scott]

What is the 20 Min Mod?
The 4 more rubber washers on the rear subframe?
I thot U said they dint make any noticeable difference.. ??

Thanks

[svxfiles]

Originally Posted by James Scott

What is the 20 Min Mod?
The 4 more rubber washers on the rear subframe?
I thot U said they dint make any noticeable difference.. ??

Thanks

The Twenty Minute Mod is a set of self lubricating bronze bushings/rubber inserts/bolts/self locking nuts that replace the soft spongey factory rear anti-sway bar to link bushings.



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