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Old 08-18-2011, 05:37 PM
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Might as well drive an SUV..

I just got my tank to empty from when I filled it a while ago. I haven't been driving around much so it took a while to get these results.

I was trying to find out my MPG for my 92 pearl and I came up with 234 miles from a full tank, which averages out to nearly 13 MPG.... I only get 13 MPG in my day to day, mixed highway and city driving (mostly highway) and that's just terrible.. I have new(ish) spark plugs, new O2 sensors, I've run some cleaner through the fuel system and something to clean the injectors and this thing still sucks down gas very quickly..

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Old 08-18-2011, 06:04 PM
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Re: Might as well drive an SUV..

wow i think i was getting 24 in city
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Old 08-18-2011, 06:56 PM
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Re: Might as well drive an SUV..

Interesting you posted this. My car used to get terrible, terrible gas mileage, like 200-250 miles a tank. I just thought thats how it was. But on the way to reading, it got almost 500 miles on a tank, provided that was with cruise control on 90% of the time. Its a bit better now, but still bad. I need to start resetting the trip odo when i fill it up and see what happens.
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Old 08-18-2011, 07:10 PM
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Re: Might as well drive an SUV..

Ya know, it's really funny. I used to get 22-24 city in my silver before the high clutch failed. After that, even though I only had 1st and 2nd gear, used to get 15-17, in fact, it would still get 17 even doing 60 mph on the short highway runs i took with it at over 5000 RPM.
When I came out to West Virginia the first time, I realized why people got much worse gas mileage than what I was used to. But 13 seems crazy low even if just city and short trip driving. Might want to have OT hook up the select monitor to see if that's showing anything goofy.
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Old 08-18-2011, 07:15 PM
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Re: Might as well drive an SUV..

Well I just hit 55 miles on my Laguna 5 speed on $20.00 worth of gas all in town and I still have about 1 gal left .I should get to 65 or even 70 miles all in town . OH that's $4.07 a gallon 4.9 gallons if I only get to 65 miles before the dreaded low fuel light comes on again it will be 13.26 MPG but even at 55 miles guessing at 1 gal left it still gas looks like 13.5 miles to a gallon ..... BTW my 92 Pearlie with stock auto got about 10 to 11 MPG on the same gas same road same everything. I will let u know.
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Old 08-18-2011, 07:54 PM
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Re: Might as well drive an SUV..

It all depends on what gas you are using. Some gas is without ethanol and some has 10% in it. If it has it in there, you will get 10% worse mileage. Other gas (winter or summer) can have an effect on it too. I know that I get the best mileage on Chevron gas than others like ARCO or other cheaper gas.
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:00 PM
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Re: Might as well drive an SUV..

Also, 91,92, and 93 or higher octanes all seem to make a difference in my experience. One time I used 91 octane, non ethanol and ended up getting about 25 hwy with my laguna. Typically with 93 octane with a 10% ethanol blend, I would easily see over 30mpg. Same driving conditions. Hwy with cruise control and a/c on.
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Some gas is without ethanol and some has 10% in it. If it has it in there, you will get 10% worse mileage.
Translation... ethanol is totally worthless. We get nothing but "deeper in debt" by the libs forcing us into that crap.

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Old 08-18-2011, 08:28 PM
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Re: Might as well drive an SUV..

I would routinely get 330 miles to a tank with combined city and highway driving in my 96 polo, so I dont understand how some of you guys are getting 13mph per gallon, that makes no sense to me.
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Old 08-19-2011, 02:00 PM
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I would routinely get 330 miles to a tank with combined city and highway driving in my 96 polo, so I dont understand how some of you guys are getting 13mph per gallon, that makes no sense to me.
It is 95% how you drive it. I can get 10MPG or 28MPG in it depending on how aggressive I drive. Did anyone see the Top gear episode where they drove a Prius as fast as they could on a track and had a BMW M3 follow if a few car lengths behind. The BMW got better gas mileage than the Prius
http://spikestl.wordpress.com/2010/0...-toyota-prius/

This is because the Prius was at 100% and the M3 only had to go 40% or so to keep up with the Prius being driven flat out.
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Old 08-19-2011, 05:13 PM
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It is 95% how you drive it. I can get 10MPG or 28MPG in it depending on how aggressive I drive. Did anyone see the Top gear episode where they drove a Prius as fast as they could on a track and had a BMW M3 follow if a few car lengths behind. The BMW got better gas mileage than the Prius
http://spikestl.wordpress.com/2010/0...-toyota-prius/

This is because the Prius was at 100% and the M3 only had to go 40% or so to keep up with the Prius being driven flat out.
That is completely irrelevant and off topic...

The Prius is not meant for fuel consumption, but low emissions. It recharges its battery with a regenerative braking system, and using the electric motor mostly in the city in stop and go. It is unique in this way and thus is not meant to be driven flat out, as you are using 1.4 litre engine to move a very heavy car at that point. If you don't understand what is actually happening, then that episode can leave quite an impression. But if you do understand how both cars work, hen tu realize that segment of the episode was crap.

I'll say again, i can drive my 11:1 engine as hard as I want, with a fuel leak and a 4.11 trans, and never drop below 14 or 15. Sure, if I stayed at 7k rpms for an hour or two, it would be worse, but our show me one spot in the US you could get away with that.
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I'll say again, i can drive my 11:1 engine as hard as I want, with a fuel leak and a 4.11 trans, and never drop below 14 or 15.
Including a track day on a tank full of short trips, I can see mid elevens, but the car runs so hellaciously rich that the tune is surely to blame. If our free man's math is right, he's got disappearing fuel.
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That is completely irrelevant and off topic...

The Prius is not meant for fuel consumption, but low emissions. It recharges its battery with a regenerative braking system, and using the electric motor mostly in the city in stop and go. It is unique in this way and thus is not meant to be driven flat out, as you are using 1.4 litre engine to move a very heavy car at that point. If you don't understand what is actually happening, then that episode can leave quite an impression. But if you do understand how both cars work, hen tu realize that segment of the episode was crap.
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Wow, it’s ok if you drive a Prius, we won’t think less of you. Top Gear is one of the funniest shows on TV and if you haven’t watched them you must. Driving style significantly affects fuel economy. This may not be Freemen’s problem but that doesn’t make the premise untrue. Again no offense meant to you and your fellow Prius drivers. I know they are a touchy lot especially a few days every month.



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Old 08-19-2011, 10:27 PM
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Re: Might as well drive an SUV..

I don't think I have a fuel leak anywhere.. I mean, I don't drip and there aren't any puddles or anything. I know I leak oil a bit and I used to leak antifreeze but I have never leaked fuel..


You know though, I just thought about how there is smoke coming from my tailpipe occasionally and it keeps turning my rear bumper blackish... I thought it was from leaky oil but maybe something else?
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Old 08-18-2011, 08:49 PM
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I just got my tank to empty from when I filled it a while ago. I haven't been driving around much so it took a while to get these results.

I was trying to find out my MPG for my 92 pearl and I came up with 234 miles from a full tank, which averages out to nearly 13 MPG.... I only get 13 MPG in my day to day, mixed highway and city driving (mostly highway) and that's just terrible.. I have new(ish) spark plugs, new O2 sensors, I've run some cleaner through the fuel system and something to clean the injectors and this thing still sucks down gas very quickly..

Any advice?
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Are you saying that you put $72.00 of premium fuel in?
Gas around here is right $4.00 a gallon.
If you put in less gas you got better MPG.
This happens all of the time, people makes mistakes.
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