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dynomatt · #31 04-02-2012, 03:56 PM

I think I can dig up a fairly stock msq file for a standard engine.

Matt

icingdeath88 · #32 04-02-2012, 04:06 PM

^ That would be great, man. It doesn't have to be a perfectly stock engine, as long as the sensors and whatnot are stock.

IIRC, you had to remove one of the teeth on the crank sprocket? And then it only needs the one crank angle sensor?

dynomatt · #33 04-02-2012, 04:07 PM

Yep, send me an email

matt dot dyne at gartner dot com

dynomatt · #34 04-02-2012, 05:27 PM

And it's not actually a step I'd be taking...Megasquirts are good and cheap, but my next ECU probably won't be a Megasquirt.

I can't really ascertain why at this point BTW.

M

RallyBob · #35 05-17-2012, 01:54 PM

Back on the dyno today. New wheels, new tires, new front air dam, some new decals, and a new ECU. Wonder what it will make?

RallyBob · #36 05-17-2012, 02:46 PM

Just got off the phone with Jack.
Same HP, same torque as before. About 1/4 the time to tune it compared to the Motec.

$430 ECU + $50 harness + Ford Taurus EDIS/coilpack from Ebay compared to $5000 Motec!

icingdeath88 · #37 05-17-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RallyBob

Just got off the phone with Jack.
Same HP, same torque as before. About 1/4 the time to tune it compared to the Motec.

$430 ECU + $50 harness + Ford Taurus EDIS/coilpack from Ebay compared to $5000 Motec!

Awesome, that's pretty much what I'm planning on using for mine, except with some LS2 coils probably.

RallyBob · #38 05-17-2012, 03:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvhQ6...layer_embedded

SVXRide · #39 05-17-2012, 06:48 PM

Bob,

So, this is with a Megasquirt ECU? Impressive!

Bill

RallyBob · #40 05-18-2012, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SVXRide

Bob,

So, this is with a Megasquirt ECU? Impressive!

Bill

Yes. Megasquirt V3.57, Ford Taurus (6 cyl) EDIS system.

neverLift · #41 05-18-2012, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RallyBob

Yes. Megasquirt V3.57, Ford Taurus (6 cyl) EDIS system.

Would you be able to provide more details about the EDIS set-up? Installation/mounting/tuning/interaction with MegaSquirt etc.

cheers
-Evan

icingdeath88 · #42 05-18-2012, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by neverLift

Would you be able to provide more details about the EDIS set-up? Installation/mounting/tuning/interaction with MegaSquirt etc.

cheers
-Evan

This is how it's typically done: http://www.megamanual.com/ms2/EDIS.htm

Basically, you put a 36-1 tooth wheel on top of the crank pulley, and you make a bracket to mount a sensor to "read" the teeth of the wheel. It's a good system, but for a one-off application like an EG33, it requires the skills necessary to make and properly align a bracket to the wheel. It also has the advantage that it's not wasted-spark.

The system I will most likely use is very much like the stock ignition system, except with LS2 coils, which have a built-in ignitor thingy for each coil. So they can be wired directly to the megasquirt. But, it will have to be run as wasted-spark, since the MS will only have one of the stock crank sensors as input (the "rear" 12 tooth wheel, with one of the teeth knocked off). Our cam sensor setup is not one the MS is able to use as far as I have been able to tell, nor is our dual crank sensor setup.

neverLift · #43 05-18-2012, 11:45 AM

Great info, very interesting read, thanks!

For your plan with the LS coils, they would each be fired by the MS, i.e. each coil would have wires to/from the ECU, unlike the EDIS which just has 2 wires to the EDIS module? Obviously the MS is required, what other things must be modified?

cheers
-Evan

bazza · #44 06-05-2012, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RallyBob

Back on the dyno today. New wheels, new tires, new front air dam, some new decals, and a new ECU. Wonder what it will make?

Jack's car and his dyno run going through all the gears is one of the reasons I went EG33 over EJ2X

LOVE HIS CAR. Pure PRON!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqnuj58lFQI

Bob, got a question for you, what valve / bucket setup does Jack run? I cannot recall if it was you or Matt who mentioned about the conversion. I think someone also just machined the hydraulics into solids (top idea) - sorry, wish I could recall who did what.

Anyway a friend of mine measured up the MY98 valve, MY98 spring and MY98 bucket and found it to short. He then used the MY99 valve, MY98 spring and MY98 bucket and it to be better - hmmm.

dynomatt · #45 06-05-2012, 04:25 PM

I think there's a standard valve length and stem diameter in the EJ20's isn't there? They're definitely a 6mm stem, but the length was the same...Google tells me it's 104.75mm. I just used those ones.

They are short, so a shim is needed that sits on the valve...here's one of my shims. Sits on the top of the valve stem.

Matt