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CA Reintroduces Bill for ANNUAL Emissions Tests for Vehicles 15-Years & older
I haven't posted here in a while, but I think this might be of interest to all of us California SVX owners and I'd like to pass it on: The idiots in Sacramento are at it once again. Trying to drive people (no pun intended) out of their older cars, so they can get new/cleaner running cars and more hybrids on the roads.
http://echo.bluehornet.com/hos...6FF9D California Reintroduces Bill to Require ANNUAL Emissions Tests for Vehicles 15-Years Old and Older Here we go again! Legislation (A.B. 859) has been reintroduced in the California Assembly by Assemblyman Dave Jones (Assemblymember.jones@assembly.ca.gov) to require annual Smog check inspections for vehicles 15-years old and older. The bill would also require that funds generated through the additional inspection fees be deposited into an account which can be used to scrap older cars. You may recall that in 2004 a new law was enacted in California to require the lifetime testing of all 1976 and newer model-year vehicles. Pre-1976 motor vehicles would remain exempt under A.B. 859. The bill has been referred to the Assembly Transportation Committee. We Urge You to Contact Assemblyman Jones and Members of the Assembly Transportation Committee (List Below) Immediately to Oppose A.B. 859 * A.B. 859 ignores the minimal impact vintage cars have on air quality. * A.B. 859 could entice vintage car owners into allowing these vehicles to be scrapped. * A.B. 859 ignores the fact that vehicles 15-years old and older still constitute a small portion of the overall vehicle population and are a poor source from which to look for emissions reduction. * A.B. 859 ignores the fact that classic vehicles are overwhelmingly well-maintained and infrequently driven. * A.B. 859 would increase costs by creating an annual inspection fee for owners of these vehicles. * A.B. 859 represents another attempt by California legislators and regulators to scapegoat older cars. Please contact members of the California Assembly Transportation Committee immediately by phone, fax or e-mail to request their opposition to A.B. 859. Please e-mail a copy of your letter to stevem@sema.org. Thank you for your assistance. Assembly Transportation Committee Assemblymember Mike Eng – Chair Phone: 916/319-2049 Email: Assemblymember.Eng@asm.ca.gov Assemblymember Kevin Jeffries Phone: 916/319-2066 Email: Assemblymember.Jeffries@assembly.ca.gov Assemblymember Bob Blumenfield Phone: 916/319-2040 Email: Assemblymember.Blumenfield@assembly.ca.gov Assemblymember Joan Buchanan Phone: 916/319-2015 Email: Assemblymember.Buchanan@assembly.ca.gov Assemblymember Connie Conway Phone: 916/319-2034 Email: Assemblymember.Conway@assembly.ca.gov Assemblymember Warren Furutani Phone: 916/319-2055 Email: Assemblymember.Furutani@assembly.ca.gov Assemblymember Cathleen Galgiani Phone: 916/319-2017 Email: Assemblymember.Galgiani@assembly.ca.gov Assemblymember Martin Garrick Phone: 916/319-2074 Email: Assemblymember.Garrick@assembly.ca.gov Assemblymember Bonnie Lowenthal Phone: 916/319-2054 Email: Assemblymember.Lowenthal@assembly.ca.gov Assemblymember Jeff Miller Phone: 916/319-2071 Email: Assemblymember.Miller@assembly.ca.gov Assemblymember Roger Niello Phone: 916/319-2005 Email: Assemblymember.niello@assembly.ca.gov Assemblymember John Perez Phone: 916/319-2046 Email: Assemblymember.John.Perez@assembly.ca.gov Assemblymember Jose Solorio Phone: 916/319-2069 Email: Assemblymember.solorio@assembly.ca.gov Assemblymember Tom Torlakson Phone: 916/319-2011 Email: Assemblymember.Torlakson@assembly.ca.gov
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Re: CA Reintroduces Bill for ANNUAL Emissions Tests for Vehicles 15-Years & older
Fortunately, or unfortunately, this is one of the obvious ways to address air pollution generated by automobiles (i.e., get the older "dirty" cars off the road). I do believe there should be a maximum yearly mileage aspect of any law put into place that would protect "vintage/collector" vehicles.
-Bill
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Re: CA Reintroduces Bill for ANNUAL Emissions Tests for Vehicles 15-Years & older
GET ME OUTTA HERE!
I never even had an emissions test until I moved here. These backwards thinking control freaks have ruined what could otherwise be a very good state. IMO, bring on the global warming. The sooner we flood this cultural wasteland, the better. Just picture, High Sierra beachfront property. |
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seeing this pissed me off.
Yes, I already miss the ocean terribly and it's barely been a week, but the morons in Sac-town are ruining the whole state with those new taxes and now this...
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Re: CA Reintroduces Bill for ANNUAL Emissions Tests for Vehicles 15-Years & older
California. You can keep it. I've never missed it yet, and it looks like I still won't have to.
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OK, rather than yell and scream about it, and think about leaving my home, etc. etc., I fired off an e-mail to all the legislators concerned, with a copy to the person at SEMA. I don't know what good it will do, but it is a more positive way to address the problem. If I hear anything, I will keep you all informed.
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My car will pass, of course. I'm just pissed about the hassle that they consistently place on the already overburdened lower class here. I consider this to be yet another tax on the folks unable to upgrade their car every couple of years. I would be driving an '07 WRX if money was falling from the sky, but being that I live in the real world where I have to work for everything I own this is not an option. If they want to make yearly inspections a mandate for all cars then I might not be as mad, it's just that they single out those who don't have the time or money to take a day off work to go sit around at a test center and the DMV.
My cars have all passed tests with flying colors (less than 50% legal limit), so this isn't going to prevent me from driving. It's only going to cost me more money to live in a place which if it were not for the work, I'd have left years ago. Why don't they place the financial burden of recovering this ruined economy in the hands of those who screwed it up, and have the means to fix it. I will be writing Assemblyman Jones, and voicing my concerns, but as I've learned in this state money is the only thing that talks and the rest of us get to foot the bill. In the meantime, lets fire some more teachers... Demockery inaction. |
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Ah, go out and buy yourselves some nice old motorcycles and some nice old two stroke lawn mowers... Better yet some 2 stroke Suzuki Water Buffalos! All of which will put out more emissions than your average 70s beater car with a functioning cat. That lawn mower will put out if used an hour a week all year long more bad stuff then driving a 90s Accord 12k.
I can't say I agree with the mileage limits for actually accomplishing cleaner air as you take your oldest cars on the road (which are usually owned by the elderly on very tight incomes to begin with). These cars are driven very infrequently but when they are, the drives tend to be short non warm up trips. So in reality these are the vehicles which need to be off the road, just don't tell Grandma she needs to fix her beater or get it off the road. Cleaning up lawn mowers is cheap and easy compared to testing cars as you simply force the cost of making it onto the manufacturer. From what I've read you can cut lawn mower (and other small motored emissions) by 2/3rds for less than $30 a motor. Sure that cost would be passed onto the consumer BUT to me $30 every 5 years or so per item is a whole lot cheaper than $60 annually per car assuming you pass and in reality will clean your smoggy cities up more anyways!
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This made me think of the Smug episode of South Park.
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Re: CA Reintroduces Bill for ANNUAL Emissions Tests for Vehicles 15-Years & older
Why California often has the toughest emission test?
Because of its population? Three more years, all SVXi will be 15 yrs old. How many SVXi in CA, Earl? Do you know? If everything passes with flying color, how much it will cost to pay for a good car inspection in California? This state doesn't even have emission test. I can pass my car inspection for $12.66 with tax if everything's good.
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