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Old 09-07-2004, 08:11 PM
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what if you just cut out the rear seats?

i know the car wasn't designed like that but it wasn't designed with a mid engine configuration either. And i have never seen a mid engine with a set or rear seats. or maybe i'm wrong but i would like to see it.
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Old 09-07-2004, 08:46 PM
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Pockets,
I guess I wasn't clear enough. I have been toying around with this idea for quite a while, and I've been thinking about it long and hard. Hacking up the styling was for fun, and to help me visualize.
I'm wanting to maintain an AWD drivetrain. The output connected to the drive shaft going to the rear wheels would still be powering the rear wheels. There would have to be a special differential, however. The output for the front wheels would still go to the front wheels in the form of a drive shaft, going under the engine. this would require modification of the differential, and of the oil pan, but the engine is already at an angle leaving enough room to put a drive shaft going up to the front. So just move the superimposed image of the engine such that the back of the tranny lines up almost with the rear wheel, and you've got almost what I'm thinking of... I hope I was alittle clearer this time round. <grinz>

Cutting out the rear seats would cut weight... lol.

Just wait, I will make a mid-engine SVX!!! Spawn of Satan or not.

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Old 09-07-2004, 09:50 PM
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That would require so much design and fabrication it's not even funny. You might as well take the image I posted literally and use two engines.

Still, it's your dream. Keep living it, dude.
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Old 09-08-2004, 03:50 AM
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A mid-engine SVX that doesn't look like an SVX is no SVX at all.

That being said... here's that same drivetrain picture only with the drivetrain flipped around. I've no idea how you'd work it, other than reverse but I'm sure someone with mechanical knowledge would tell you to just flip the gears over to the other side of the transmission. (or... yeah... )

Oh, and be aware that I somehow lost the Guigario "Flare Out" over the rear tirewell... overzealous cloning tool useage.
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Old 09-08-2004, 03:52 AM
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And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this picture shows what SeVeX was thinking of...
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Old 09-08-2004, 03:59 AM
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Upon further investigation, SeVeX's first idea doesn't seem to stretch it quite far enough...
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Old 09-08-2004, 11:51 AM
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dude thats kinda harsh.
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Old 09-08-2004, 12:19 PM
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Mr. Pockets, you are a bad, bad man.
Now I've gotta buy 2 fwd svx, some bailing wire, welding rods, and just hope no one beets me to my new secret project. Thanks , i don't sleep as it is.
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Old 09-08-2004, 12:27 PM
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tee, hee, hee...

Ya'll are great. I love feed back.

Flagstaff. You're right that is how I envisioned it. Yet in the engine overlay on the picture I edited, you had the engine too far forward. I realize that it's too far forward, but you could set it back to where it would fit and fabricate an axle assembly that would make up the difference. There is room, it will just take some doing.

I had contemplated fliping the engine around. But one thing made me change my mind. The engine would then be hanging over the butt of the car instead of in the middle, which is the point of having a mid mounted engine. Changing the direction of the drive train isn't hard, just flip the differentials over. Harder than it sounds, but doable.

Leaving the engine as it is (facing forward), and modifying the axle assembly makes more sense, because it moves the weight closer to the center of the car.

With this I must going and get my college on. A math report awaits me.

Ta ta...

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Old 09-08-2004, 12:57 PM
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Hmmm, a 94 fwd weighs 3375, another 300lbs for an engine, I guess a fwd tranny weighs about 200lbs, Hmmmm, 460hp






460HP! 3875 lbs!
Thats less than 9 pounds per HP




Please please please don't tell Di
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Old 09-08-2004, 01:13 PM
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Re: tee, hee, hee...

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Leaving the engine as it is (facing forward), and modifying the axle assembly makes more sense, because it moves the weight closer to the center of the car.
I equate this to Armadillo Aerospace deciding their rocket would use powered landings instead of parachute recovery because they thought it would be 'more simple.'

In other words, I find your logic a little questionable.

Either way, it'll never happen. No offense to you and your promises, but when I was a kid I said I'd build Voltron. Doesn't mean it happened. I predict that once you find out just what's involved with your idea, the cost and complexity will far exceed your current expectations. In this crazy thread, simply moving the engine and a FWD tranny to the back for a RWD mid-engine SVX is a far more 'conservative' concept.
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Old 09-08-2004, 01:35 PM
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Well then.

Firstly. I am not a kid. I guess that depends on how old the individual is that is referring to me as such. I will always be young at heart, but not a child. Besides, I'm not a goats offspring.

Second. I do know how involved this project is. I realized there will be copious amounts of fabrication involved in this undertaking.

Third. I never said it would be simple.

Four. Conservative measures never recieve the most valuable rewards. It is that which you dream, those things you do to stretch your being that are the most rewarding.

And my fifth and final point. The only reason I have not started already is because I am in College. No money, and the only car I have is my SVX. So she must remain my reliable, comfortable, quite fast, point a to point b transportation.

I guess it comes down to a diffence in opinion and attitude.

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Old 09-08-2004, 02:39 PM
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I never called you a kid. I was recalling my own memory.

And, as I said, you go live your dream. Best of luck.
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Old 09-10-2004, 12:39 AM
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i heard a comedein say how he was an asain living in so cal driveing a honda and on saturday night him and all his honda driving friends would meet at a local hang out and their cars would connect together to form a giant robot



why dont you just make it rear wheel drive?
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