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Old 02-03-2007, 09:15 AM
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SVX vs. 3000GT NA

all things being equal, no modifications or anything, what are your opinions on who might come out on top. the NA 3000has about 222hp and a little less weight, the SVX has 230hp and 3500lbs.

Also, at the dragstrip, should I launch in AWD or FWD, Drive or Manual mode?
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:06 AM
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SVX vs. 3000GT NA

all things being equal, no modifications or anything, what are your opinions on who might come out on top. the NA 3000has about 222hp and a little less weight, the SVX has 230hp and 3500lbs.

Also, at the dragstrip, should I launch in AWD or FWD, Drive or Manual mode?
Launch in drive and NEVER with FWD. Brake torque to 2,400-2,600 RPM and mash it on the last yellow light. I've raced a 3000GT N/A when I still had stock gears and exhaust and I pulled away rather easily, So I vote for SVX.
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:08 AM
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In one of the promotion videos it outperformed the 3000gt on the skidpad.
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:33 PM
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And to say... before I learned of the SVX... 3000GT was the car I wanted... lol...

Hey... I was young and stupid back then
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In the first gran turismo a stock svx beats a n/a 3000gt in a straight line with no handicap turned on
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At the track

There is a black 3000GT n/a that I have raced on many at the track. I would almost always git just a bit of jump at the line, but the slips always show nearly identical 60 foot times and the difference was just reaction time. At the 1/8 mile mark, I always pulled away and put distance between us. This was the constant result when doing time trials against him until he got mad and installed NO2. I will look on my laptop for the actual runs I have saved in my database and see if I can find the stats and possible the slips themselves. Hope this helps...

Also for what its worth, he had less than 100K miles and his motor and I was at the 160K at the time.
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Hey awesome, thanks for the info and experience everybody.

I'm not a street racing punk (anymore) so we're going to grudge match at Island Dragway when they open back up for the season. His car has no mods besides a short shifter and a boomin' system

Does anyone have any opinions on whether to manually shift or just keep it in Drive & PWR mode? I know manual shifting will raise the RPMs to redline, is this desirable?
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Hey awesome, thanks for the info and experience everybody.

I'm not a street racing punk (anymore) so we're going to grudge match at Island Dragway when they open back up for the season. His car has no mods besides a short shifter and a boomin' system

Does anyone have any opinions on whether to manually shift or just keep it in Drive & PWR mode? I know manual shifting will raise the RPMs to redline, is this desirable?
Nope...
  • take out all unnecessary weight (spare tire, tools, sub box, etc...)
  • Put the car in "drive"
  • pre stage... inch forward slowly until shallow staged (go deep if you have crappy RT)
  • stage
  • hold foot firm on brake
  • apply about half throttle to reach flash stall RPM on the converter
  • on the third yellow light (DO NOT PREDICT) release foot brake, apply rest of throttle.
If its heads up, dont look back. If its a bracket race, watch mirrors to see if sandbagging is required.

Post pictures of win and time slip afterwards

Note... I would not recommend doing this very often back to back without additional transmission cooling. If you have PWR, you should be fine.
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Old 02-03-2007, 08:46 PM
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The 3000GT engines were all over the place. I've driven some that were absolute mutts and some that were pretty healthy. Don't wager too much until you know the car...
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The 3000GT engines were all over the place. I've driven some that were absolute mutts and some that were pretty healthy. Don't wager too much until you know the car...
Always the safest bet....
Especially noted for the ones that watch the terrible racing reality show "Pinks"
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Pinks - a show about drag racing that bears no resemblance to actual drag racing.

Okay, thanks for all the tips, I figured we would be pretty close, he does have a 5 speed though and shifts it really quick, guy is no slouch at driving.

I was going to just do a single run anyway, the SVX wasnt really made for this kinda thing
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Okay, thanks for all the tips, I figured we would be pretty close, he does have a 5 speed though and shifts it really quick, guy is no slouch at driving.
Fast shifting without specific calculated clutch engagement is not the answer. A clutch in no way resembles a torque converter.
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What do you guys think about removing my air filter just for the race? I've never had a car with a MAF, is this one of those tricks that works on the SVX? or a no-no
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You'd have to try it and see. I actually had a high flow cone on mine with the stage III S/C kit, and it caused the MAF to get faulty readings due to turbulan airflow, but as I remember it when young Tom removed his and left the box cracked open, it increased his power on the dyno slightly.
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