Subaru is #1!

[dcarrb]

Originally Posted by benebob

All the proof you need is that they named Old Milwalkee the best beer a couple of years back.

Wait... you mean, it's not?

Actually, I'd venture that might have been in the Cheap, Mass-Produced, Domestic Beer sub-category, not best overall.

As to trouble with Subaru turbos, it's not likely a blind incident report thing, as their frequency of repair surveys break down into numerous categories, from engine major, engine minor, drive train, exhaust, right down to the audio system. More likely they don't have enough respondents to reach a statistically meaningful conclusion. I recall a year or two when they offered no reliability projection for the Baja due to "insufficient data."

dcb

[Huskymaniac]

Originally Posted by dcarrb

Wait... you mean, it's not?

Actually, I'd venture that might have been in the Cheap, Mass-Produced, Domestic Beer sub-category, not best overall.

As to trouble with Subaru turbos, it's not likely a blind incident report thing, as their frequency of repair surveys break down into numerous categories, from engine major, engine minor, drive train, exhaust, right down to the audio system. More likely they don't have enough respondents to reach a statistically meaningful conclusion. I recall a year or two when they offered no reliability projection for the Baja due to "insufficient data."

dcb

And I would venture to guess that not many STis have been sold relative to the overall Subaru line. The market for penis substitutes is still relatively small (pun intended), thankfully. And the issues have been mainly isolated to the STis. Any time the envelope is pushed, there is a chance that a weakness will be exposed. Sometimes it is a bad decision on the part of the engineers (cast parts versus forged) and sometimes it is a minor oversight that caused a major problem (bad ECU tuning at WOT or a bad relay in the fuel system, causing a lean condition at WOT). It even happens to the great car companies, like catfish motors:

http://www.floridaevosclub.com/f10/a...ngine-232.html

http://forums.evolutionm.net/mitsubi...r-results.html

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=357981

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25113

[subeman90]

Originally Posted by Huskymaniac

And the issues have been mainly isolated to the STis.

I agree but I do disagree. You hear about sti people busting them but I hear about a lot more of the soccer moms in the Outback Turbo more than anything.

Hence the reason I have a slow 2.5

[1986nate]

Originally Posted by subeman90

I agree but I do disagree. You hear about sti people busting them but I hear about a lot more of the soccer moms in the Outback Turbo more than anything.

Hence the reason I have a slow 2.5

Plenty of Legacy GT's as well...

[Conn SVX]

Guy across the street has 3 Subarus. 2 outbacks, one turbo, and a Forester Turbo. Each with over 100,000 miles and no problems yet.

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by Conn SVX

Guy across the street has 3 Subarus. 2 outbacks, one turbo, and a Forester Turbo. Each with over 100,000 miles and no problems yet.

What years are they?

[benebob]

Originally Posted by dcarrb

Wait... you mean, it's not?

Actually, I'd venture that might have been in the Cheap, Mass-Produced, Domestic Beer sub-category, not best overall.

dcb

Sorry, that would not be the case. It is the best beer marketed in the US says they. I even think it was the winner 3 years in a row.

[Landshark]

Even as a poor college student, i wouldnt drink Old Mil.

Milwaukees Best was my swill of choice.

[Sean486]

http://www.djc.com/news/general/10010416.html

That type of beer all tastes the same to me. Much prefer a craft beer or even just a decent ale.

As for Subarus my brother just traded his 2002 WRX in, it had 180K and never had an issue (except for the clock in the dash breaking) he never even had to put in a clutch. However my Mom's 2004 Outback had a headgasket issue at 125K, and had a the ECU go bad at 80K, so some mixed results.

I still want a Subaru for my next daily driver.

[svxfiles]

Originally Posted by svxcess

Our 2010 Outback has 104,000 miles on it.

This is the least problematic of any of the 43 cars I have owned in my lifetime.

ZERO problems.

Tires at 55,000.
Brakes at 70,000
Average 30.5 mpg on regular.
The only problem that I ever had was that darn stuck open sunroof!


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[subeman90]

Originally Posted by 1986nate

Plenty of Legacy GT's as well...

Agreed. I was thinking about Mike when I posted my previous statement but I did not relay that on here.


What the hell is wrong with Old Mud? I like "Beast" myself though.

[dcarrb]

Had a look at the new CR over the weekend. They gave the 2012 Impreza a glowing review and named it the top pick among small sedans. Poor noise isolation was the only complaint. Notably, they recorded 27 mpg overall, in real-world driving, with a CV transmission. Price as tested was <$22,000; don't know to what trim level that equates.

As to reliability ratings, only the Forester scored "much better than average." Impreza and Legacy, "better than average." WRX/STi (and as I recall, Tribeca): Average.

dcb

[icingdeath88]

Originally Posted by dcarrb

Had a look at the new CR over the weekend. They gave the 2012 Impreza a glowing review and named it the top pick among small sedans. Poor noise isolation was the only complaint. Notably, they recorded 27 mpg overall, in real-world driving, with a CV transmission. Price as tested was <$22,000; don't know to what trim level that equates.

As to reliability ratings, only the Forester scored "much better than average." Impreza and Legacy, "better than average." WRX/STi (and as I recall, Tribeca): Average.

Ugh CVT. MY wife's lancer has such a transmission. Hate it. My buddy's V6 Altima also has it. Better but still hate it.

Would not.

[dcarrb]

Subaru shows the CVT as having a "6-speed manual" mode. How does that work?

They brought a CVT to market in the 80s, in the Justy. That is, they tried. I believe those had reliability issues.

dcb

[icingdeath88]

Originally Posted by dcarrb

Subaru shows the CVT as having a "6-speed manual" mode. How does that work?

It pretends to have gears. It's not the same... It just gets the job done for when you need a bit lower gearing towing something or you want engine braking for some reason (I'm sure there are real-world examples, but I haven't found one yet). Absolutely no use for it in daily driving. If you want to go fast, then flooring it will put it in the right gearing to stay at the RPM that makes optimal torque. Shifting it manually will only make it go slower.