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Old 12-25-2007, 11:01 PM
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new Subaru Forester. ug.

the wheels, VDC, and more room is nice.....but it looks like a Mazda/Hyundai.











NORTH AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL AUTO SHOW PREVIEW:
SUBARU RELEASES FIRST PHOTOS OF ALL-NEW 2009 FORESTER CROSSOVER SUV

* All-New Design with Improved Comfort, Space and Utility
*  All-New Platform With Sport-Sedan Dynamics
*  Standard Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC)


CHERRY HILL, N.J -- Subaru of America, Inc. today released the first official photos of the all-new, third-generation 2009 Forester, a total re-design of the award-winning crossover utility vehicle (CUV) that will debut at the 2008 North American International Auto Show (NAIAS) in Detroit in January. The 2009 Forester, which arrives in Subaru dealerships this spring, builds upon its predecessor’s reputation as an icon of safety, dependability and versatility. The new-generation 2009 model projects a bolder, more SUV-like design and making a major leap in safety technology, comfort, refinement and driving dynamics.

As with all Subaru models, the 2009 Forester comes equipped as standard with Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive. An all-new platform featuring a 3.6-inch longer wheelbase (now 103.0 inches) and double-wishbone rear suspension improves crash-worthiness and at the same time provides crisper handling, a quieter ride and increased interior space and cargo room. The 2009 Forester once again blends positive SUV attributes including a high seating point and interior versatility with passenger car comfort, handling and fuel efficiency.

All Forester models for 2009 feature standard side-curtain airbags with a rollover sensor, and the Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC) stability and traction control system is standard on all models for the first time. With the Subaru Dynamic Chassis Control Concept (Subaru DC3), Subaru optimized all elements of the Forester’s chassis to deliver a better balance of ride, handling response, quietness and overall traction performance than offered by competitive vehicles. A comprehensive array of elements contributes to that goal, including the new, high-strength body structure, standard Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive, VDC and four-wheel disc ABS brakes with the Brake Assist safety system.

Manual-transmission models also feature Incline Start Assist, which can momentarily prevent the vehicle from rolling backward when being driven away from a stop on an incline.

Even with its bolder exterior and roomier interior, the new 2009 Forester is only about three inches longer than its predecessor, thus retaining the trim exterior packaging cited by Forester owners as one of this model’s most essential features. A robust body structure, heavy-duty raised four-wheel independent suspension system and up to 8.9 inches of ground clearance help make Forester equally adept at negotiating twisty roads and absorbing ruts and bumps.

IMPROVED PERFORMANCE WITH GREATER COMFORT AND VERSATILITY
The 2009 Forester offers naturally aspirated and turbocharged/intercooled 2.5-liter Boxer engines, both revised to provide better low-end and mid-range torque for more responsive everyday performance. New interior materials, including double-stitched fabrics and high-grade plastics, impart a feeling of higher quality. As before, Forester is offered in a wide array of models, with the 2009 Forester 2.5 X offering one of the best values in the crossover SUV segment and the range-topping Forester L.L.Bean Edition offering more luxury without compromising the vehicle’s sporty nature.

The 2009 Forester offers a navigation system for the first time as well as advanced audio system upgrade options. The 2009 Forester comes pre-wired for XM® or SIRIUS® Satellite Radio. An auxiliary audio input jack enables connection of an iPod® or MP3 player.


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Old 12-25-2007, 11:48 PM
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I actually kind of like it.
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Old 12-25-2007, 11:56 PM
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it reminds me of a Saturn vue............
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looks like it has door frames too. I kinda think it looks like a suzuki XL-7 to me. I like it.
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Old 12-26-2007, 05:33 AM
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Subaru's design strategy for the 21st century:

1) Design breathtakingly ugly cars.

2) When the ugly cars don't sell, make them visually indistinguishable from popular makes.

3) Repeat every 2-3 years.

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Old 12-26-2007, 08:18 AM
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I liked the 2004-2008 Foresters a lot, but this is yet another very disapointing step that Subaru has taken in their car design. If I wanted a SUV like that I would get one with something bigger than 4 cyl boxer motor. The forester had a corner on a market segment here in New England that nothing could take away.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:20 AM
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so with Subaru its either:
- completely original, but in a extremely bizarre, weird way, or.......
- totally bland, borderline ripoff of other brands

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I kind of like it and we're in the market for a small cross-over. The new Vue was leading the pack, but momma likes turbo-powAh

Alan-how is the 2.5T with the auto? I like the 6 speed but haven't driven an autobox turbo Subie.

hmmm...

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I see no potential for this:

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I agree on the looks but:

"An all-new platform featuring a 3.6-inch longer wheelbase (now 103.0 inches) and double-wishbone rear suspension improves crash-worthiness and at the same time provides crisper handling, a quieter ride and increased interior space and cargo room".

I couldn't fit comfortably in the back seats of the current Forester and ruled it out of previous car buying decisions. This seemingly small increase in wheelbase, if dedicated to rear seat passenger room puts it back in the running for us. Wife and I are both tall (I'm 6'3 and shes 5'10") so rear leg room is important.
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i don't hate the way it looks, but i think its a shame that they are getting rid of the forrester to make that. it is an suv in a stations wagons cloths, vrs a station wagon in suv's cloths. it just looks like anouther ford escape.
i am getting really dissapointed with subaru as of late.
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Old 12-26-2007, 10:33 AM
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Alan-how is the 2.5T with the auto? I like the 6 speed but haven't driven an autobox turbo Subie.

hmmm...

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its not bad, but the 5EAT is SOOOOOOOO much better than the 4EAT. the 5EAT is just a lot more sporty-feeling and smoother/refined. its hard to compare because my LGT is modded and the FXT feels slow to me. i know the FXT is fast, but it doesn't feel as fast as the WRX did, because you don't get the boost explosion - the FXT has smoother acceleration.

a stage2 treatment would fix that up, though.

the FXT ECU seems even more adaptive than the WRX - it felt REALLY slow after driving it home (1 hour highway trip), so i disco'd the battery gnd for a few minutes to reset the ECU, and it was a different car after that.
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wtf is the thingy on the hood? a 4th mirror? mad jdm external tachometer?

either way, the whole thing has stooped to the levels of an americian built suv. Something like this line shouldnt be said to make a good impression
"New interior materials, including double-stitched fabrics and high-grade plastics"

Whatever happened to panels wrapped in padded vynal? or like, REAL leather? cars today are tactile garbage unless you shell out some serious dough, and even then they just arent the same as a well built car of 10 years ago.

looks like Ill be buying used for a while
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wtf is the thingy on the hood? a 4th mirror? mad jdm external tachometer?
some kind of weird JDM gizmo.

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either way, the whole thing has stooped to the levels of an americian built suv. Something like this line shouldnt be said to make a good impression
"New interior materials, including double-stitched fabrics and high-grade plastics"
get inside a Kia, and you'll have a better appreciation for "higher-grade" plastics.

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Whatever happened to panels wrapped in padded vynal? or like, REAL leather? cars today are tactile garbage unless you shell out some serious dough, and even then they just arent the same as a well built car of 10 years ago.
i'm positive you can get the new Forester with leather - they are just saying the fabric seats are better quality now. our '05 has leather, and i'm sure its an option - probably standard equipment on the LL Bean Edition '09 Foresters.
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wtf is the thingy on the hood? a 4th mirror? mad jdm external tachometer?

Reminds me of the early '70s Corollas

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