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Old 09-02-2002, 11:28 PM
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Re: Re: IN Larrys defense..

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"the white man is the devil syndrome"
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Old 09-02-2002, 11:35 PM
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What? Was that quote used by somebody other than myself?
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Old 09-03-2002, 12:38 AM
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Re: Re: IN Larrys defense..

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I will say this and then I'm done on this subject, since this is a car forum. No. It doesn't matter what colour you are here, nor does it matter to me. But apparently, it matters to society. The only reason why words like N***er or N***a exist is because we allow them to. Supposedly racism against african american exists today and is a problem. Well I think that's BS!!! As long as we look for implications of racism in words, gestures or whatever, racism will exist in the minds of everyone. If we ignore these entities and get over "the white man is the devil syndrome", we will reach a trully egalitarian society.

Ps. Larry, I wasn't attacking you and if you think I was, I apologize.
Dave
I stayed out of this discussion before because it really needs to be dropped and put in the past, this post was about someones car getting hit, not about racism. Although the statement I quoted does hold some truth, I see a lot of racism, not so much against African Americans, but against Korean, Chineese, and Japaneese Americans. The statement that there is no racism is not true, there is a lot of it and I dispise the people that judge someone else because of their race, in fact if I hear a racist comment about one of my employers I will kick the person out of the store, there is no room for racism in society, there is no room for such small minded people in society. I can't stop it from going on in the world, but I do have the privelage of stopping it in my place of bussiness.
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Old 09-03-2002, 01:45 AM
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Larry III first off I do want to apologize for offending you and anybody else that took offense but I need to respond to some things that were posted in my absence that I believe need to be addressed..

--Larry do not ever write about me and then ASSUME my response..I mean it is/was Labor Day Weekend and I had other things to do than be on the computer (I did not say BETTER, I said other so I'm not being smug here ok) so don't say that I don't care or that I agree with you because of my lack of response..I don't appreciate it..

--it was a movie QUOTE which was referred to in the post..If I had not used the actual words used in the movie it wouldn't be a QUOTE, would it?? (as Ca$h proved in a later post)..it was also a pop culture reference that has been used in many places ie:bumper stickers, tshirts,buttons,on Letterman, etc.

--We are mostly adults here (taking into consideration older teens as adults) who are aware of the movie or have seen it..It was not a porno or a late night "direct to cable tv" movie but a well reviewed and covered film by many outlets..Fine some of you may not have liked it but you recognize the quote..
BTW the statement was made by a BLACK person in the movie

--I was responding to srmifer. The way I believe he began the thread was with humorous anger at the people who crashed his SVX and I was trying to sympathize with him and diffuse the situation with some humor..Since I'm not the only one who responded with similar sentiments of hurting the guy (Toyota) I don't think I was far off..I know not everyone has the same sense of humor (some people like Bill Cosby, some like Eddie Murphy, some like Woody Allen, some like George Carlin,Lenny Bruce, Milton Berle, Ray Romano, I could go on) but just because you don't like it, it doesn't mean I was wrong either..

--Srmifer, DavieGravy, Shisvx, Jamsvx and our own Seraph used words that they deemed adult enough to be symbolized ($@#&%* that sort of thing) so I don't feel like I was using "foul language" or profanity..(profanity are the seven words that George Carlin used in his famous riff)

--Larry III if you were offended by my language again I apologize but just as easily that you put it up on the board and kept on about it you could have just as easily pm'ed me in private and I wouldn't have to feel like I'm being attacked for something that clearly was not the intention (racial epithet)

--as a minority (Hispanic-specifically Puerto Rican) who grew up in and work in a predominantly African American/minority neighborhood I am well aware of how the N word can light things up. Many people also don't hold your viewpoint..Case in point if one of my black friends came up to me and greeted me by saying "hey N!g*@" while hugging me. He/she is not using it with hate in them or as an epithet..you might not like it or might be offended by it but if they aren't offended, you nor I can judge that..and don't think that it is because they are ignorant or anything..some people say that the more you use the word the less power it has..you are diluting it..

--Also more importantly I have been told there is a difference between "N!g*@" and "N!g*&R" ..
one is a greeting used by African Americans and others -while the second is a racial epithet used in anger or derogatory manner..

I didn't mean to go off on a rant here (sorry Dennis Miller) but Larry III had 4-5 chances to say his piece and I am using this one to reply to his and other's statements..Look I haven't been a member for all that long but I never meant nothing bad by what I wrote..I don't hate anyone due to their age,race,gender,sexual orientation, etc but I do admit I don't love everyone either..

Lets just print this out, stuff it into a PEACE pipe, light it up, take a drag and pass it around OK
Love, Peace and Axle grease
Squiggy
BTW does anyone know where I can find a radiator for a 92 ...oh never mind I'll put it up on the parts board..ha.ha
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Old 09-03-2002, 04:29 AM
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Squiggy,

Thanks for responding. I now understand. Hope you enjoyed your long weekend. I am of an older generation. To me a racial slur is a racial slur. I do not get the nuances. Thanks for clearing it up.

Do not get a 92 radiator. Get a 94 or latter. Externally they are the same. Internally they are different. The radiator was modified in either late 93 or for 94 (I dont know) to try to cure the ATF overheating problem.
Try Harry Newman or Bill Fagan for the radiator.
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Old 09-03-2002, 01:35 PM
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Good GOD you guys need help. Every other post was an apology for 'possibly offending' someone. JESUS CHRIST. Most of us are from America. We have the FREEDOM to say whatever we think (excluding threats against the whitehouse), and it is perfectly fine if something you say OFFENDS somebody. But in this case, the pulp fiction quote should NOT be considered offensive. Was it referring to african americans in a derogatory manner? NO. Was it insulting anyone? NO. It was a harmless post quoting a great movie. The only person who 'took offense' to it was the same person who also is going to drive around and waste natural resources to 'show respect' on Sept 11th. You guys need some thicker skin, you really do. If you offend someone, life goes on. You can still be friends. If someone offends you, life goes on, you can still be friends. Today's politically correct society is ruining you. Grow up.

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Old 09-03-2002, 01:45 PM
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Hey everyone, how about we just drop the subject and move on. There is no reason to keep this up, it will just make people angry.

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Old 09-03-2002, 02:03 PM
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Yes, perhaps we should all never post in fear of offending someone, somewhere.

I'm not trying to start any fights, I just find it sad when everyone has been brainwashed into believing that so many things are offensive, and that everyone is a victim. When something is NOT derogatory and was hurting nobody, and you LABEL it as racist- YOU ARE PERPETUATING RACISM.

Anyway. Peace.

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Old 09-03-2002, 02:55 PM
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Hey everyone, how about we just drop the subject and move on. There is no reason to keep this up, it will just make people angry.

-Mike
I second that motion.
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Old 09-04-2002, 05:35 AM
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Look--
the misunderstanding between myself and Larry III is squashed..
let's just worry about srmifer's svx..and support him in his time of need...Squiggy
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Old 09-04-2002, 07:59 AM
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Look--
the misunderstanding between myself and Larry III is squashed..
let's just worry about srmifer's svx..and support him in his time of need...Squiggy
My feelings exactly. Squiggy, keep us updated on your progress.
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Good GOD you guys need help. Every other post was an apology for 'possibly offending' someone. JESUS CHRIST. Most of us are from America. We have the FREEDOM to say whatever we think (excluding threats against the whitehouse), and it is perfectly fine if something you say OFFENDS somebody. But in this case, the pulp fiction quote should NOT be considered offensive. Was it referring to african americans in a derogatory manner? NO. Was it insulting anyone? NO. It was a harmless post quoting a great movie. The only person who 'took offense' to it was the same person who also is going to drive around and waste natural resources to 'show respect' on Sept 11th. You guys need some thicker skin, you really do. If you offend someone, life goes on. You can still be friends. If someone offends you, life goes on, you can still be friends. Today's politically correct society is ruining you. Grow up.

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when friends offend friends (even if it is not intentional), there are appologies exchanged, that is how you remain friends. notice how nobody appologized to you for anything....


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HEY! WE GOT BACK ON TRACK WITH THIS THREAD 2 POSTS AGO. Squiggy and Larry understand each other and we are all wishing srmifer good luck with his SVX damage. No need to get your last words in every time one of these stupid arguements comes up.
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Old 09-04-2002, 03:17 PM
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Don't worry. Its just ShiSVX goign back on her word again.

ShiSVX offended me. I demand an apology! I'm the victim!

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Don't worry. Its just ShiSVX goign back on her word again.

ShiSVX offended me. I demand an apology! I'm the victim!

- Ca$h
You offended me as well. I demand an apology! I'm the victim!

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