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We need to tidy up names of colours.
There are a few different sources of information on SVX colours.
The most informative is the SVX site maintained by Jamsvx, http://www.geocities.com/jamsvx/versions.html so James, if you are reading this or lurking, please join in the party Where I see a need to tidy up is in the use of similar names in different markets for colours that are not the same. As an example of this, on James' geocities list, the early Japanese cars have a colour James translates as Crimson Mica, and the code is #265. I am pretty certain this is the dark purple early cars that are known in the US as Claret. In direct contradiction with this nomenclature, in the European catalogue listed on the same site, they list the name Crimson Mica as #487. This is listed on the JDM models page as Bordeax Lead Mica, and in the US on Joe Spitz' site as Bordeaux Pearl from 1994. In other correspondence I have seen the pretty bright red metallic and black colour being called Crimson Mica, a name reasonably apt in this case. So there we have the same name used for three totally different colours. We need to go back to basics on this. My suggestion is this; we do up a spreadsheet; we list every different colour we know about for the SVX in the first column by its CODE #. In the other columns we can list the "common usage" name it has been given in different markets. We can also list if it was never available in certain markets if we know this information. For instance, the JDM market seems never to have had the bright reds. I'm thinking here of what the USA refers to as Barcelona Red and Brilliant Red, and I also do not think these were offered in Europe, though I could be wrong about that after 95. Any thoughts or suggestions? Joe
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Here is the UPDATED list that I have for US/JDM. I don't have the paint code for the bright yellow or the metallic red/black that was used on the German/JDM SVX's. It's a start anyway.
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. Subaru Ambassador 1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995..... Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan In-Service Date: January 2, 1997 "The Pristine Green Polo Machine” First Polo Green on the Network First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000) First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007) First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013) HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler. R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016 2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ...178,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback 2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles. Plenty of parts, service and windshields. 4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001 My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX . . Last edited by svxcess; 12-04-2006 at 09:26 PM. |
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In this one document you have already covered most of what I am trying to tidy up or elucidate. I have a few questions, and the first of these is about Ebony. You list it as Ebony Pearl 235 / Black Mica 135. What does the Black Mica 135 refer to? I have in the distant past seen posts where there was reputed to be two types of pearl black paint. One type with red mica granules in the paint make-up, and a similar one that has instead green mica granules for the pearlescence in the paint. Is it the case that 135 refers to the paint with green granules? Or does it instead refer to a code for the black roof and bootlid of the early cars with two colours? The reason I ask this is because my Ebony Pearl car, aka Black Betty is red mica paint all over, no difference between the roof and trunk lid paint and the rest of the car. So is the Mica 135 paint the one with green mica? Thanks Joe
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Who has a car with Green Mica?
Any pics of one? Quote:
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The JDM Bordeaux Lead Mica should actually be Bordeaux Red Mica.
JDM Colours: 91-93 Silver Grey Two Tone #215 Dark Grey Metallic #222 Black Mica #235 Red Mica #247 Crimson Mica #265 White Mica #267 94-95 Silver Metallic #249 Peacock Blue Metallic #269 Light Silver Metallic #406 Emerald Green Mica #434 96-98 Emerald Green Mica #434 Blue Mica #389 Bright Green Mica #517 Light Silver Metallic #406 Bordeaux Red Mica #487
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Thanks for that paddles.
So it's the L and R confusion with the language then? That explains a little. Good info so far. Thanks guys. Joe
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Work thus far....
OKaaayyy
I have uploaded the spreadsheet to my locker, you can see it here: http://www.subaru-svx.net/photos/use...ntialist|40159 It needs tidying up, but the information received tonight from John and from Paul has cleared up a few points. The spreadsheet answers a few questions, but it also asks quite a few, and we would need feedback from people in Australia, in Germany and so on to fill in the gaps. Tone in Portugal can supply the only code not listed, that for Randy's favourite colour, Bright Yellow! John Hoffman, the red colour in Germany you are missing is #247, Red Mica. This is mistakenly listed in Geocities as Lead Mica #947. Some other questions I am not certain of would be if Barcelona Red is a solid red, i.e. non-metallic or non-pearlescent. Also I think Barcelona red appeared only as a Red with Black roof, but I need this confirmed. And was this colour combination available in England? Another piece of speculation I have left open is about the three tone silver cars available ONLY to the JDM market in 91-92, and extremely popular there. Can anyone confirm if the colour scheme is black/215 Silver Grey Metallic/217 Medium Grey Metallic? This is speculation on my part, but it is hard to see where these colours would have been used otherwise. Any information you can add, I will update. When we have it 90% confirmed, we can post the spreadsheet in the How-To section, to help people with accident repairs. Joe
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I chercked inside all of my brochures. Here is what I found:
My UK brochures show photos in only ....Claret (with black roof and trunk) ....Silver (with black roof and trunk) ....Black My Japanese Alcyone brochure color chart shows: ....Silver/Gray two tone (with black roof) ....Red Mica (with black roof and trunk) ....Claret (with black roof and trunk) ....Pearl White (with black roof and trunk) ....Dark Gray Metallic ....Black My Japanese Alcyone S4 brochure shows (all solid colors) ....Silver ....Bordeaux red Mica (Bordeaux Pearl) ....Bright Green Mica (Polo Green) My German brochures show these colors (all without spoilers) ....Pearl White (with black roof and trunk) ....Silver (with black roof and trunk) ....Claret (with black roof and trunk) ....Red Mica (with black roof and trunk) ....Black The 25th Anniversary Barcelona Red and the later Brilliant Red are solid, non- metallic colors with clearcoat. I recall the yellow color code being something like 216 or 516. Another interesting thing is that my 1997 Canadian SVX brochure color chart shows: ....Black ....Bordeaux Pearl ....Polo Green ....Brilliant Red ....Laguna Blue (although I know of no one who has ever seen a Laguna Blue Pearl in 1997) ....The photo in the brochure shows a Laguna Blue plowing through the snow, with the 97 grille ....plainly visible. .
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. Subaru Ambassador 1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995..... Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan In-Service Date: January 2, 1997 "The Pristine Green Polo Machine” First Polo Green on the Network First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000) First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007) First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013) HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler. R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016 2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ...178,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback 2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles. Plenty of parts, service and windshields. 4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001 My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX . . Last edited by svxcess; 12-05-2006 at 07:41 PM. |
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I must check my own brochures, but I don't remember any colour charts. Thanks John
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More good info.
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This is good to know. At least we now know that the 3-tones as I think of them use Liquid Silver as the main colour, and a new code #250 for around the skirts. Many thanks. As another piece of pure speculation, I am now wondering if #215 and #217 two colours supplied by John as JDM, could be the codes for the colours on the wheels? We have always been aware that the wheels come in a darker and a brighter silver. Joe
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Are the two-tone cars, Gray Metallic 250 on the lower portion and Silver Metallic 249 over the rest of the car, including the roof? The three-tone cars are the same colors, except the roof is black. I have only seen this combination, but disregarded the roof color and considered the body to be two-tone. Are there 2 versions? .
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. Subaru Ambassador 1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995..... Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan In-Service Date: January 2, 1997 "The Pristine Green Polo Machine” First Polo Green on the Network First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000) First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007) First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013) HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler. R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016 2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ...178,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback 2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles. Plenty of parts, service and windshields. 4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001 My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX . . |
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As far as the Bright Yellow. the code is 518. I retrived an old saved email that I sent to Bell-Colvill in the UK. I asked them what the color was. I have never found the color codes for the wheels in any publication or reference. Transwheel Corporation, one of the largest wheel refinishing companies in the US, has five wheel colors listed for the SVX, each with a different refinishing code: Maybe there were production variances in the early years. 1992-93 Gray Charcoal Medium Charcoal Light Charcoal Charcoal w/purple undertone 1997-97 Bright Silver An if this isn't confusing enough. As long as we are talking about wheels, Transwheel also has two fifferent codes, one with a smaller centerbore. I have only seen the larger centerbore. Did the 4WS cars use the other one. See attachment. .
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. Subaru Ambassador 1996 Polo Green LSi #216..138,100 miles...SOLD JFICX8659TH100216.....Date of Manufacture: November 16, 1995..... Fuji Heavy Industries..Ōta North Plant....Ōta City,. Gunma Prefecture, Japan In-Service Date: January 2, 1997 "The Pristine Green Polo Machine” First Polo Green on the Network First Clear front turn signals, JDM Alcyone hood emblem, rear panel, and BOXER engine cover on the Network (US) (2000) First 5000K HID factory fog lights (2007) First SVX JDM BBS wheels on a USDM SVX (2013) HID lighting (5000K) for headlight and H3 fog lights, PIAA SuperExtreme 120W high beams, rebuilt EG33 longblock, Cometic head gaskets, Phase II flexplate, AMR aluminum radiator with custom silicone hoses, 160A high-output alternator in aluminum-ceramic coated case, new design alternator wiring upgrade v.4, rare factory headlight protectors, refinished JDM BBS mesh aluminum wheels and custom, polished billet aluminum new hex center caps, LED grille mod, R1 Concepts high-carbon cryo slotted rotors, Akebono ceramic pads, Goodridge S/S braided brake lines, Smallcar Stage 1 shift kit, ThermalTech aluminum/ceramic-coated valve covers, Energy Suspension urethane front & rear swaybar bushings, Bontrager22 rear swaybar with QS Components Chromoly Teflon/Kevlar endlinks, "$15.00/5 minute" suspension mod. Hella Supertone horns, Custom stainless steel exhaust system with 2" headpipes, Magnaflow cats, AeroTurbine AR25 resonator /AWD "Bullet" muffler. R.I.P. 2010 Subaru Outback Limited 2.5 CVT...338,000 miles. Totaled by a 1,300 lb. COW March 4, 2016 2014 Hyundai Avante Limited ...178,000 miles. Actually quieter and smoother than the Outback 2007 Mazda Miata MX-5 PRHT...102,000 miles. Plenty of parts, service and windshields. 4th Registered Network member —2/21/2001 My NEW locker..I...My Email..I..Wikipedia/SVX . . Last edited by svxcess; 12-05-2006 at 08:24 PM. |
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I regard all the early cars [other than black or graphite] as 2-tone cars once they have the black roof. I regard the black/silver/grey as 3-tone. But then I am a pedant. These 2-colour greys always came with a black roof John. I have never seen one with two greys only, so all are 3-tone really. This begs the question what are the colours #215 and #217 used for? That's why I suggested the wheels. Paul is adamant the early JDM cars used Liquid Silver 249, either on its own with a black roof, or with the grey lower portion 250 and the black roof. All the later cars used the bright silver. So what are the other two silver colours used for? Where did you get the codes John? Joe
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