Air intake

[Aredubjay]

Originally posted by nvrmore100


Cone? Motorsportwarehouse/JC style? What do you mean by mass air adaptor? Maybe I'm interpretting MAF wrong.

Let me know I will probably get it from you if this is the case.

Ryan

The adaptor allows you to attach the hose to the MAF sensor, once the stock airbox is removed. This, I suppose, would tell me that it's a cone filter.

[cocacola08]

Originally posted by nvrmore100
The fender air should be ice cold. I never said that. I'm just saying, they hole from the engine bay to the fender would still be your inlet...thus you aren't gaining any incresed air flow.

I mean put the filter itself in the fender well.

The screen does work. However you are then limited to how much air will flow through the screen. It does remove the "large debris" but not the small stuff. Back to the Sunfire, I know quite a few people that have done the screen in the wheel well idea. It works fine until the first major rain. A LOT of rain water gets thrown up at the screen and esentially gets sucked into your filter. The dirt will get trapped from the filter, but still you are taking in a lot of water.

Not putting the screen in the wheel well, but right in front of it. There is a small angled ridge there hole could be maybe 3"x5", to let the air in there, then possibly putting something to block the water from getting onto the filter. This might work on the drivers side as well if you were to put some suplemental cooling equipment there (i.e. tranny) to get more air to it.


Just throwing out ideas

[nvrmore100]

Hmmm might be a good idea. I'm toying with the cone idea. I personally like them for the sound difference alone. I'm also debating the RS scoop idea with my hood. I'm thinking of makind some type of heat shield (to block engine bay air) so that all the air from the stock inlet, and the scoop are forced towards the cone filter.

One of these years I'm actually going to take my fender well apart and see how it's laid out. I would like to work out a way of taking both sides and providing disk brake cooling. Hopefully with little modification, this can be done.

This might help out the warped brakes scenario most people end up getting.

Ryan

I might be interested in the filter as well, but I am not sure what you are actually referring to by MAF adapter. How old is the filter and have you cleaned it regularly?

[cocacola08]

see an earlier post by aredub in this thread for an answer to the question on the MAF

The air filter is about 10K miles old just cleaned. The MAF adapter bolts to the mass air flow meter which allows the use of acone filter which is included with the adapter

[nvrmore100]

SOLD!

Send me an email ryan@ryanmacdonald.com and we can work out the details.

Thanks,
Ryan

Just last night I finished up my modification of putting a cone in the fenderwell....I'll let you see pictures when I get them...

All I did was use an adapter at the MAF sensor and then some PVC pipe to route it to the fenderwell. From there, I strapped in a K&N cone filter and vrooom.....

It has better pickup than before and even sounds kinda cool.

[cocacola08]

Are you using anything to keep that piece from moving around in there?

I'd think that it might rattle around in there? has it done that at all?

[cocacola08]

also, was it a significant change is accel?

Did you just put it in there, or did you also cut out some of the plastic on the bottom (or anywhere else for that matter)

Inside the fenderwell there is a big black box. That bolts to the engine bay compartment. I used the same hole to run a bolt through an bolt it up so it doesn't move inside the fenderwell. I used 3" pipe from the MAF sensor to the K&N filter.

Also, the "angled ridge" in the plastic on the bottom of the wheel well cover has a hole in it. I had done that last year. I'm not too worried about water getting in there.

I'll try to get pic's ASAP.

[cocacola08]

I quote homer, "DOH"

I guess I forgot about how the baffle down in there was mounted!

cocacola08--smacks himself in the face "wake up"

Originally posted by Chad
Just last night I finished up my modification of putting a cone in the fenderwell....I'll let you see pictures when I get them...

All I did was use an adapter at the MAF sensor and then some PVC pipe to route it to the fenderwell. From there, I strapped in a K&N cone filter and vrooom.....

It has better pickup than before and even sounds kinda cool.

There's a company called Injen Technologies who make intakes with this principle (not for the svx, though). They put cone filters down in the fenderwell and claim a 8-10 increase in peak HP.

About the PVC, I've heard that PVC piping puts off some kind of fumes when heated???? On a discussion group I belonged to when I had my Nissan 240sx it was advised not to use the PVC method because of this. I can't say I have anything to confirm this though.

[cocacola08]

I'm not sure what else he'd be able to use. without getting something custom fabricated

[nvrmore100]

Hmm...I wonder if that 3" piece of chrome tubing I had is still around. We used to sell this stuff at one of my old jobs, they are like 3 feet long with a 3" diameter. We used some of it to make an intake on my friends Jetta....

Nothing a hacksaw couldn't take care of.

Ryan