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RSVX · #31 01-07-2008, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NikFu S.

About? Everything?
When? All the time?

I have given you when/about, come back when you are finished.

NikFu S. · #32 01-07-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by lhopp77

Its the "old" people that have gained and maintained your freedoms to spout your nonsense. Of course they were young at the time and had better insights for the future than someone like you. People like you became the dedicated followers of Hitler and Stalin.

Lee

Yeah I'm evil in carnate. Look at me go, spreading disease and chaos. If you knew me in person you'd have no choice but to like me just like everyone else.

Coincidentally, I think you should be pointing that finger at yourself.

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Originally Posted by RSVX

I have given you when/about, come back when you are finished.

Ok, but you haven't used any actual evidence to back up your claim.

odepaj · #33 01-07-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NikFu S.

I disagree.

There are far greater ills working for personal gain at the expense of the people (the people ARE the country). I expect if you (generalizing "you") are one of these ills, everything Micheal Moore does would be an accost on your character. He's an antithesis to greedy corporate execs or corrupt officials, and everyone benefitting from these execs and officials. It's well-to-do vs not-so-well-to-do in the US, and the well-to-dos are ruining it for the not-so-well-to-dos. Someone has to speak for them because they are being swept under the rug in a system that favors trickery deceit and secrecy. That's probably alright with you if you don't care, but realize the people you are butting heads with are not like you, they actually care about people outside of their own friends and family.

("you" not directed at anyone here. I would not pretend to know any one here so well)

Would you like to change this post now?

NikFu S. · #34 01-07-2008, 04:53 PM

Just because I found out he's a millionaire (I really didn't know) doesn't mean I think he's greedy. He seems to be a charitable person, using more of his fortune to reach out to others rather than just horde it like some suit and tie jockey.
I'm on the fence about whether his documentaries are strictly informational for the sake of exposing truth, or if they are full of so called half truths and lies, but unless someone can come up with some concrete facts here I'm keeping my current stance.

(Wouldn't hurt for you to maybe explain why you think I should change it, or why you bolded that part, you know, to avoid confusion)

odepaj · #35 01-07-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NikFu S.

Just because I found out he's a millionaire (I really didn't know) doesn't mean I think he's greedy. He seems to be a charitable person, using more of his fortune to reach out to others rather than just horde it like some suit and tie jockey.
I'm on the fence about whether his documentaries are strictly informational for the sake of exposing truth, or if they are full of so called half truths and lies, but unless someone can come up with some concrete facts here I'm keeping my current stance.

(Wouldn't hurt for you to maybe explain why you think I should change it, or why you bolded that part, you know, to avoid confusion)

I wasn't really saying I think you should change it, just letting you know that you might want to find some things out about a person before you go and make claims about them.
The bolded part is just me showing a big flaw in your theory about him.

Dustin

(I said "theory" because you mentioned that you yourself don't know to much about him, i'm not trying to be a smart-ass or anything)

NikFu S. · #36 01-07-2008, 05:07 PM

I wouldn't admire the guy if I didn't know anything about him. I know enough to think he's a decent person. I also know a lot of people are out to slander and vilify him. If their reasons are justified, now that is what I do not know.
That's what I've been asking for this entire time.

The very first statement I made was a simple question asking whether a quote was verifiable as true, as it seemed like slander. Does Micheal Moore believe Saddam's regime was a paradise? Probably not.
Would any of his opponents and mockers say this to debase him? Absolutely. I mean it's right there.
To me, a person willing to slander another just because they do not agree with them is incredulous.

Anyway, I'm off to figure this out.

RSVX · #37 01-07-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by NikFu S.

Ok, but you haven't used any actual evidence to back up your claim.

No offense, but please tell me you aren't that thick.

THE E V I D E N C E IS IN HIS MOVIES.

Am I being clear yet? I dont need to prove it, he does it himself is his work.

Now, go watch them, and come back.

NikFu S. · #38 01-07-2008, 07:56 PM

You are an idiot if you expect me to just believe you without P R E S E N T I N G evidence to back up your argument.

I would have to be thick to let you or anyone get away with bull**** like that.

Besides, I couldn't find it right away, so I'm watching this right now: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=6

RSVX · #39 01-07-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NikFu S.

You are an idiot if you expect me to just believe you without P R E S E N T I N G evidence to back up your argument.

I would have to be thick to let you or anyone get away with bull**** like that.

Besides, I couldn't find it right away, so I'm watching this right now: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=6

I did, you just failed to see my proof, is in his films

NikFu S. · #40 01-07-2008, 08:59 PM

You are basically just saying you think everything he says is wrong all the time.
I'm going to take it all as fact unless someone proves to me it isn't, or if I have prior knowledge of something that isn't. That doesn't help your case any.

Here is an Ebert and Roeper review. Why should I not agree with this?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=5

Landshark · #41 01-07-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NikFu S.

You are basically just saying you think everything he says is wrong all the time.
I'm going to take it all as fact unless someone proves to me it isn't, or if I have prior knowledge of something that isn't. That doesn't help your case any.

Here is an Ebert and Roeper review. Why should I not agree with this?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=5

wow.

uh,......wow.

Ebert and Roeper: respected authorities on international terrorism, the inner-workings of our government's national security, and buttered popcorn.

NikFu S. · #42 01-07-2008, 11:56 PM

So because they movie critics and not government agents, I should not trust their review of a movie?

RSVX · #43 01-07-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NikFu S.

So because they movie critics and not government agents, I should not trust their review of a movie?

They reviewed the movie, not the accuracy of the content.

Landshark · #44 01-08-2008, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RSVX

They reviewed the movie, not the accuracy of the content.

well, i guess if they said it was a good movie, then Michael Moore must be an ok guy and his facts are straight.

NikFu S. · #45 01-08-2008, 01:29 AM

You mock, but in reality, when someone likes something, they agree with it.

The movie was given an R rating because whoever controls the rating system, the FCC or whoever, wants the movie to circulate as little as possible. It does not deserve an R rating.
Roeper wants everyone 12 and up to see it. He wants all intelligent, unintelligent, and easily impressed people to see it. That tells me he finds the information agreeable and R rating undeserved.

Matter of fact he seems rather excited to be reviewing it.

Sure you can mock him because he's just a movie critic, or he didn't "review the accuracy" during the limited review timeslot, but don't ever expect to up your game when your tactics of fouling one's credibility through making them look silly, annoying, or crazy is all you can do. There are powerful people on your side (or should I say you hide under the fishnet skirt of elitest slime, they are not so much on your side as your puppeteer), but there are intelligent people like myself who can see through your crap.

People like Alex Jones. People like Micheal Moore. People like Ron Paul.

Believe what you want. Slander who you want. You will never convince anyone who is not already indoctrinated into your belief system, but I open the eyes of people every day. With the help of the people I admire and with ever increasing sources I spread TRUE FACTS about the tyranny in this country that you either ignore, welcome, or pretend doesn't exist.

Which is it? All of you guys. I see the same people over and over in these threads. I am always here trying to figure you out.

Are you in denial of what's real? Do you welcome a police state? Do you think it's not possible for our elections to be fixed?

THEY ARE FIXED.

FIXED.

Global warming hysteria is orchestrated by the government. 9/11, Oklahoma City bombing, WTC bombing, all Federal schemes. Taliban, CREATED by the US. Saddam, funded and SUPPLIED and protected by the US until it was time to take his land. Bin Laden PROTECTED by the FBI even after his part was played. The CIA keeps drugs trafficking alive (hello, NAFTA? NAU?). Voting machines are manipulated, bills are suppressed, politicians are payed off to keep quiet, good people are ASSASSINATED, innocent people are arrested and detained and KILLED FOR NO REASON. Criminals go free because they own the system. Your rights are wittled away like so many splinters of the world crafting elites as the police force begins to regard the Constitution as nothing more than mantra of an obscene cult.

When does it end?

When do you wake up from your ****ing day dream?

Do you think the world will be OK just because you feel comforted when you get in your bed at night? I know I feel that way, so I'm sure you do as well.

I know it won't be ok.