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Old 03-02-2006, 01:10 AM
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How hot does diesel burn?

I need this information to shed light on a discussion involving something. The important thing to know is whther diesel burns hot enough to melt concrete or steel in extreme circumstances.
My bet is no it can't, but I need verifiable data, and I cannot for the life of me find it.

Steel melts at around a low of 1370°C (2500°F) up to 1500°C.
The melting point of concrete varies between 1800-2500°C.

Matter of fact, I could make use of any fuel, especially jet fuel and natural gas, and things that can be found piping through buildings.
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:14 PM
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I think I got what I need.

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Fact check needs to pull his head out of his arse, the fires did play a role, so the person puts the temps at under 1500*F, lets say it was 1200*, yup, far weaker than the standard range of 0-120*, now go grap a 1/2 inch piece of solid steele, try to bend it, heat the middle up to 1200* and try to bend it again, any easier? Add that to loss of structural integrity from a jumbo jet impact and BAM!

To help with the misleading statement they put the first 2 tempature statements in *C then *F, but the final one is just *C, most people in this country think primarily in *F, so unless you read it very carefully it looks like it is comparing 1517* to 800* when in reality it is comparing 825* to 800*, I caught that on the 3rd time of reading.
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Fact check needs to pull his head out of his arse, the fires did play a role, so the person puts the temps at under 1500*F, lets say it was 1200*, yup, far weaker than the standard range of 0-120*, now go grap a 1/2 inch piece of solid steele, try to bend it, heat the middle up to 1200* and try to bend it again, any easier? Add that to loss of structural integrity from a jumbo jet impact and BAM!
I am pretty much neutral on the whole issue but I guess I agree with you here, but there is a lot more involved than this simple fire that ravaged 4 or 5 floors.

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To help with the misleading statement they put the first 2 tempature statements in *C then *F, but the final one is just *C, most people in this country think primarily in *F, so unless you read it very carefully it looks like it is comparing 1517* to 800* when in reality it is comparing 825* to 800*, I caught that on the 3rd time of reading.
Eh, any way you slice it the fire is estimated at burning at only half the temp required to turn steel molten.

I did run across something obscure that appeared in an article, stating that concrete pretty much loses all it's chemical bonds due to the moisture evaporating during superhot fire, which throws the melting point I found into question.

Inconsistencies suck.

I'm tired of reading dead end articles.

You said grap.
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