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Interesting note, and yet another reason to like GM...notice as of now there is no V6 GTO (or corvette for that matter)...in 2007 the Camaro will return alongside the GTO and there will be NO V6 model. That is the way to do it. Quote:
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Possible 2007 Camaro:
Looks pretty retro to me. I guess this was drawn by a guy who has connections to GM designers.
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"Numero uno is the price. Would we pay an extra five grand, over the Corvette, for the 911? That's a no-brainer; absolutely. Fifteen? Probably, but we'd have to think about it. Twenty? Well, you already know our answer: no." hey guys, guess what? people on a budget aren't going to buy it anyway, but they do say they'd take the 911 over the Corvette....up to a certain price. so is the 911 the better car, or is the review and exercise in bargain-shopping? a Porsche is like an extension of your arms and legs. this is what you are paying for: "We never found a patch of road that gave us even a whiff of that "Oh, %#$@!" feeling that precedes some type of midcorner correction or wheel sawing. Editor-at-large Pat Bedard calls this "path accuracy." At speed, how accurately can you place the car? With the 911, the answer is in fractions of an inch; with the Vette, it's in inches. This feeling likely is why the 911 went through the cones of our lane-change test 1.1 mph faster than the Vette. You can plant this car anywhere." the way these things handle can't be put on paper. they give confidence, and back it up because you know exactly what it will do. priceless. the Vette has been a sloppy rattle trap for decades. all of a sudden, a few years of supposed quality improvement is supposed to make me feel better about it? time will tell.
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Alan 1987 928 S4 (Black) SOLD! 1997 SVX LSi (Ebony) SOLD! 2005 Legacy GT (Silver) [Cobb Stg 2+] SOLD! 1987 928 S4 (Black) SOLD! 2005 Forester XT Premium (Crystal Gray Metallic) SOLD! 2008 Lancer Evolution X MR (Apex Silver) [Cobb Stg 1+] 2015 Outlander Sport 2.4GT AWD (Mercury Gray) 2013 G37xS (Obsidian Black) |
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Hey Shadow... the GTO is also outperformed by the mustang GT in acceleration. (thats a musclecars thing right??) Its also 8 grand cheaper, and gets better gas mileage...
just thought i'd throw that it for kicks
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They have a comparo of the new 300hp rustang GT vs the new 400hp GTO and they picked the rustang. I couldn't believe the GTO wasn't that much ahead in acceleration. I think the only mistake they made was in price. The GTO needs to be under $30k. I'm still fuming over the WRX vs rustang article. 6.0 0-60 for a WRX? I'd take a WRX over a rustang when the WRX was cheaper, got substaintially better fuel milage, has 4 doors, and AWD. They go on to say the WRX has a miniscule trunk, 11.0 cubic feet. The rustang? 12.3. Oh that's so much larger.
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Alan 1987 928 S4 (Black) SOLD! 1997 SVX LSi (Ebony) SOLD! 2005 Legacy GT (Silver) [Cobb Stg 2+] SOLD! 1987 928 S4 (Black) SOLD! 2005 Forester XT Premium (Crystal Gray Metallic) SOLD! 2008 Lancer Evolution X MR (Apex Silver) [Cobb Stg 1+] 2015 Outlander Sport 2.4GT AWD (Mercury Gray) 2013 G37xS (Obsidian Black) |
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thanks, ....me too have you seen the new one yet called Anthem ? and thanks for keeping to the subject
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Dayle, we are keeping to the subject, the rustang. No one is talking about the SVX or pick up trucks. ford can promote that garbage anyway they want. They harp on the solid axel as important, but the SVT version will have IRS. Other then the GT name a ford CAR that is worth anything. focus? Taurus? Five Hundred? Please. All junk. Look up NHTSA recall information and see who has had the most recalls in the past 5 years. Here's a hint, It's not Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Subaru, etc...
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the subject line is about a commercial for the all mighty and conquering Mustang btw....here on the west coast...they dont rust
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My mom will forever live in me and never be forgotten, one day Ill see her again CLICK the LINK below to Visit the SVX Store: http://www.planetsvx.com http://www.motorsportwarehouse.com/svx/sig2.jpg Cars in the garage: 92 Toyota Soarer Single Turbo JDM RHD 70 Boss 302 Mustang 39k original miles 97 SVX Lsi 92 Liquid Silver Murano-ized (1st of its kind) 71 Cougar Xr7 Conv 351c 4v 4spd 69 SS Camaro 350 71 Nissan RHD Fairlady Z 70 Stang Fastback 70 Amc AMX 390 71 240z 89 Conquest TSi w/ 5.0 v8 swap 84 Mustang GT Turbo conv "good, if it bleeds, we can kill it ....." |
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Darn desert dwellers!
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Anyway, once again, the bottom line is that the "sloppy rattle trap" has bested your "arm/leg extender" 4 out of 6 times in Car & Driver's case. You can talk about PERCEIVED differences until you're blue in the face (and you will) but at the end of the day, on paper, the Porsche is in need of some refreshing if they want it to be "worth" the premium pricetag. Quote:
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BAM I layed that trap for you... you're argueing the same thing, only not quite as well, as landshark did with the Porsche vs Corvette. You're using percieved value on a GTO that was SLOWER than the mustang for 8 grand MORE. PERIOD. "better quality interior" and "beefier suspension" and more comfortable and higher quality is all just "percieved" and most people like the mustang WAY better than the GTO in all stylistic comparisons. true, the new one will i think be slightly faster.. but its still 8 grand more (are the raising the price with the more powerful engine??). and in a head to head comparison... Ford won. (the 05gt to the 04 GTO) can't you see how you're just siding on GM... whether you're taking the "cheaper and faster" with a corvette, or the "slower, and "better" with the GTO?????? please say you see this.
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The 2004 GTO was faster than the 2004 Mustang Mach 1, and the 2005 GTO is faster than the 2005 Mustang GT. So that right there just drops a depth charge on your submarine of fun, since my whole comment was based on the fact that the vette OUTPERFORMED the porsche for less money. So for your trap to have worked, the Stang would have had to OUTPERFORM the GTO for less, and it didn't. Try again. Quote:
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In my experience, NO ONE likes the new Mustang. Oh wait, I do know one guy...he has a 2002 GT, he likes it. Other than that, the only people i know that like the new design are on the other side of magazines and TV screens. Quote:
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....looking.... ...hmmm.... ...nope, still right. Sorry. Yes I am biased toward GM products, just as Alan is biased towards Porsche and the large part of this board is biased towards Subaru. However, I do take a 99% objective approach to this sort of argument. Here's the facts... C6 vs. 911 - C6 was cheaper and still won. 04 GTO vs. 04 Stang - Stang was cheaper and LOST. 05 GTO vs. 05 Stang - Stang was cheaper and LOST. So, in conclusion, looking at the results of the performance of these cars, you can't really say i'm biased (not knowing me). Obviously if I was talking simply about which one I like better because "I just like it better", that would be a different story. Thanks for playing, feel free to try again (cause i know you will). |
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