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I agree with you Lee. And that post pretty well did it for me too.
At the same time, I do hope he stays safe, and I do hope the killing can end ASAP. But I do wish people like Danny could wake up and be angry at the one's who are doing this to his country -- Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, Muslim fascists, etc. Stop blaming Israel for defending itself. Stop blaming the US. It's ironic that the average person in the US holds Lebanese life more sacred than some of the people who live in Lebanon. The Lebanese staged mass protest when Syria assasinated their leader, now they should do the same to kick the real invaders out. The Israelis don't want to be there. |
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What surprises me is we cannot trust anyone anymore. England did stop this terrorist plot with their surveillance techniques but found out it was their own citizens-at least this is what OUR news is telling us. I do not understand why we went to Iraq? Is it to anger more Middle Eastern countries to hate the U.S.? We have been told so many different theories on invading Iraq that I dont know the real reason we are there. If we had the capability in the late 90's to take care of Osama Bin Laden why didnt we? Our country is HATED by a lot of other countries, why? Is it "in Americas best interest" do go here and there saying how great democracy is when our own politicians abuse it here at home? I love this country but "dislike" the practices of our government. It is also hard to vote for someone when most of them are "friends" with large corporations. Was a "terror plot" really avoided or is this just what they want us to believe, a way to control us with fear? What would be the best thing for us all-our governments, factions, and miltia groups to get together away from me and you and let them go at it. Stop deciding what "is good for me, America, and the world" and LEAVE ME ALONE.
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Actually if you look for the post in the other thread, you find that I cut and pasted the exact copy and bolded the comments that you took. You are right, he is now pro-Hezbollah against Israel. He supports the Hezbollah attacks in retaliation to the Israeli bombings that he finds unjust. The change in his attitude is a result of past few weeks of living in this conflict. Maybe you didn't notice, initially he wasn't pro-Hezbollah. Danny critized and condemned their actions against Israel. If you remember, some of the other posts made by Danny were in favor of the US over Hezbollah. He does believe that our media is influenced by Israeli news and he wishes that we didn't support Israel. I'm sure you could associate 'having friends in the resistance' with global terrorism in your opinion, but as well all know, options are nothing more than a fart in the wind. I'm not as smart as you and your two Jewish friends. I yet again (due to my ignorance) fail to see how for Danny or anyone in Lebanon who wants to hire WGJ as a personal bodyguard to beat down the Israelis like he beat down that nutty volleyball player as being anti-US. |
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The Patriot act does make that easier to do by gaining an approval or warrant after the fact. Lee
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Just an example: A friend of mine's house was trashed during the night. The police came do the door and knocked it down (because he wasn't fast enough down to the door to open it for him) and they started searching his house for stuff. So, finally he gets downstairs and he's like "WTF are you doing in my house!?" and they're like "We're looking for stuff from (insert name here)'s house." My friend was in shock; "Well, that's the guy next door!!" So, the police trashed his house on a hunch....and they get the wrong house. Thank you Patriot Act for your warrant-less search and seizure. There's a reason we have the warrant system - to prevent stupid things like that from happening.
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So, I guess the bottom line is that I won't get into any lengthy argument of the Act since I am not the expert on it. One thing that is clear by reading the Act is the provision that legally lets information be passed amongst Law Enforcement and Intelligence Agencies which was definitely a problem in the past----even in relation to 9/11. That is definitely one provision that I agree with and think the wall that existed prior to the Act impeded investigations to preclude catastrophic events such as 9/11. It is very interesting to note that one of the attorneys that interpreted the wall policy procedures and wrote the policy guidance during the Clinton years---actually sat on the 9/11 Commission. Talk about fox in the hen house. Lee |
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And if you are literate enough to read what I said about the marines and 9/11 you would know what I am talking about. You can check again my statements in all posts if you want, but for you and the other old timer I say for the last time: - Hizbullah did a mistake by killing the marines, I never agreed to that. - Hizbullah has nothing to do with 9/11, Al Quaeda did (and Al Quaeda was in fact against Hizbullah and threatened many times it will kill its leader Hasan Nasrallah because he doesn't want to invade Israel and wipe out the Jews as he used to say in the mid 80's) - I said if Iran wants to nuke Israel, the US must do some action about it because the Iranians may fulfill what they are saying. - I am against what the terrorists were doing in UK, and I was relieved that UK caught them just in time. In the end, I am Christian and I sympathise with Christian countries in the first place before any muslim, especially muslim terrorist like Al Quaeda. - Hizbullah are fighting a freedom war against Israel. Hizbullah are not bombing themsleves into Jews, unlike Al Quaeda is doing. And newsflash my boy, Al Quaeda are Sunnis and Hizbullah's are Shiites, Sunnis and Shiites are killing each other in Iraq. I am not with Al Quaeda, neither Iran, and not with any Muslim. If Hizbullah were Christians, I would take their side for the sole purpose they are defending my country and sustaining heavy damage to israelis. If you are not man enough to face real political facts, you should stick with "not-exactly SVX" excluding the political freedom.
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As you guys divide yourself between Black/White in the States, our division became now Lebanese Forces/Tayyar el Watani/Future/Hizbullah/Amal/Ichtirakis... etc... This is our way of life
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I love how before 9/11 the word terrorist was reserved for someone trying to cause terror, not for someone defending themselves(even if they started it). Now the word terrorist and terrorism is being thrown around like it is nothing. The fact that before 9/11 I could watch CNN and never hear that word in a day, and then one year after 9/11 I could count it being said over 200 times speaks volumes to me. Our media has done a wonderful job brainwashing folks into making another Witch Trials. Don't like what a country is doing to defend themselves? Are they resisting forced change? OBVIOUSLY, they are terrorists and for world peace we need to kill them.
Over the years we have given Israel more money than ANY other country, in the year 2005 alone we gave over 2.2 billion dollars to them. Do we want them to win, of course we do, we have time and money invested there. Do I agree with Hezbollah and the way they have conducted themselves in the past? No. Do I agree with what Israel is doing? A resounding no. In this case I am forced to choose the lesser of two evils, I would be with Danny on this one and support the "terrorists" at least until the conflict was over. Both sides have EQUAL power in ending the war as well. So stop with the bull**** that Hezbollah started it, you sound like your three. At the point when people started dying it no longer mattered WHO started it, just that it started. And before you go and label me as anti-US and a terrorist/terrorist supporter...know this: I am already classified as such by the government since I have volunteered in the past to help Food Not Bombs. Food Not Bombs is considered to be a terrorist orginization despite the fact that nowadays we do little more than feed the homeless 2 days a week. *shrugs* Sounds like a staunch case of terrorism to me. |
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