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Old 05-23-2007, 07:29 AM
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stock g35s//is350s//altimas//wrx//evos//gto all running faster times

cars these days are putting out some big numbers, even if you can get a svx to run 14.00s or close to it, your still keeping up with most modern cars that are stock

i say keep the fast cars to the big boys keep the svx original and clean

buy a weekend race or toy car if you want something fast or to tear down the drag strip
and I say no thanks... we have been over this before and it is a personal opinion.

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Old 05-23-2007, 07:36 AM
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and I say no thanks... we have been over this before and it is a personal opinion.

Tom
i agree we both have opinions on it, no need to start a rant,

congrats on the 13.90 run just have to get those trap speeds up
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Old 05-23-2007, 08:08 AM
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i agree we both have opinions on it, no need to start a rant,

congrats on the 13.90 run just have to get those trap speeds up
you mean start putting that heffer on a diet?? Ya I know... I have a few things planned

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Old 05-23-2007, 08:58 AM
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Or you can put up 14s with a stock motored SVX with 150k on it and a 4.11 auto so you're not cruising like a gen 2 VW Jetta auto on the highway. On a real track though there's a reason why those british dinosaurs can keep up with modern tech with their pre-ww2 technology and underpowered motors. The best part is they look so much better than any of the unispired designs today a well. Congrats Tom, you're right where we should be at the moment if I ever get the garage done and can figure out why I was griding through gears like there was no tomorrow on my 15.5 run.

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stock g35s//is350s//altimas//wrx//evos//gto all running faster times

cars these days are putting out some big numbers, even if you can get a svx to run 14.00s or close to it, your still keeping up with most modern cars that are stock

i say keep the fast cars to the big boys keep the svx original and clean

buy a weekend race or toy car if you want something fast or to tear down the drag strip
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Old 05-23-2007, 06:47 PM
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1/4 mile SVX time records

PoweredX2: 13.2 with 3.70 auto FWD and nitrous(Nitrous & FWD SVX record)
TOMSSVX: 13.935 with 3.90 S/C 6 spd. (S/C 6 spd. SVX record)(at 96.14 mph) set May 22, 2007
Benebob: 14.2 with 4.11 auto N/A grassroots racer(4.11 auto N/A SVX record)
Tomssvx: 14.5 with 4.11 5 spd. N/A(4.11 5 spd. N/A SVX record)
Phastsvx: 14.5 with 4.11 5 spd. turbo (4.11 5 spd. turbo SVX record)
Budfreak: 14.9 with 4.44 auto N/A(4.44 auto N/A SVX record)
Bwana: 15.3 with stock trans. and gears N/A(3.54 auto N/A SVX record)


I believe the drag racing season has now officially begun
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You forgot to add the 14.08 I ran like 6 months ago with nearly the same set up as Tom.
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:25 PM
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stock g35s//is350s//altimas//wrx//evos//gto all running faster times
svx's don't cost $30k
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Old 05-23-2007, 10:36 PM
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svx's don't cost $30k
well... that depends on how much you put into it... I still don't think im at the 30k mark yet though

1900 purchase price
3800 6spd
600 clutch
300 Brakes
550 wheels & tires
6500 Stage III
1000 exhaust
1200 koni/ground controls
1100 Cams and such
700 Rods
1000 Pistons
200 bearings

$18,850 in parts alone... those are only mods and not replacements and maint. If I didn't do my own labor I would imagine this would be somewhere in the realm of high 20's low 30's

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Old 05-24-2007, 07:04 AM
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You forgot to add the 14.08 I ran like 6 months ago with nearly the same set up as Tom.
Mike, this isn't a top 10 list, just a list of the records. As Tom has run a faster time with the same set-up, his time is on there and not yours. As Budfreak went 14.9 while I ran a 15.0, his time is on there and not mine.
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$18,850 in parts alone... those are only mods and not replacements and maint. If I didn't do my own labor I would imagine this would be somewhere in the realm of high 20's low 30's

Tom
Still cars today aren't built with the same quality as the SVX. You have one amazing car Tom through-and-through!
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Mike, this isn't a top 10 list, just a list of the records. As Tom has run a faster time with the same set-up, his time is on there and not yours. As Budfreak went 14.9 while I ran a 15.0, his time is on there and not mine.

Still cars today aren't built with the same quality as the SVX. You have one amazing car Tom through-and-through!
I have to congratulate all you guys! You are doing wonderful work tuning up the SVX, and keeping the spirit alive.

Chike, without going into hijack mode, I'm interested to see that these times were delivered by guys using 4EAT autos ranging from 3.54 to 3.70 to 4.11 and 4.44.

I have done a spreadsheet on autos to see where the speed ranges and power ranges fall, for my supercharger conversion. See my locker here

How did you find the 4.44 on the road, particularly the highway? Pretty low?

I had a 4.11 in my Legacy Twin Turbo. It was good at highway speeds, pretty quick in 3, and the bottom two gears were so low it would only hold 2 for a second or two on kickdown.

I think the 4.11 is the chosen ratio, but I'd like to hear how the 4.44 worked on the road.

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Old 05-24-2007, 08:08 AM
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I have four 4.44s.
I have installed many more.
I have installed three 4.11s.
I will only install a 4.11 if it is rebuilt!

3000 Engine rpm = 72 mph.
BTW;
With a 4.44,
6940 Engine rpm=10,000 driveshaft rpm.
10,000 driveshaft rpm = 2250 axle rpm
2250 axle rpm = 166.406mph
7500 peak rpm gives
10,000 driveshaft rpm =2433.09 axle rpm.
With a stock size tire, 24.86” tall that translates into 179.94709 mph.
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Old 05-24-2007, 08:22 AM
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Thanks for the response Tom.

I'm presuming we are talking the same thing, 4.44 final drive, but using the 4 speed auto?

I figure a 5 speed is going to have a different spread of ratios, and be a different machine to drive than the auto. I prefer the auto for a number of reasons, but for sure with the low number of ratios, they have their limitations.

The main point of my question is this; how do they[4.44s] drive as a regular road vehicle? Are they acceptable? Do the lower ratios increase consumption? Is the noise level higher at highway speeds? Could I live with it?

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Thanks for the response Tom.

I'm presuming we are talking the same thing, 4.44 final drive, but using the 4 speed auto?

I figure a 5 speed is going to have a different spread of ratios, and be a different machine to drive than the auto. I prefer the auto for a number of reasons, but for sure with the low number of ratios, they have their limitations.

The main point of my question is this; how do they[4.44s] drive as a regular road vehicle? Are they acceptable? Do the lower ratios increase consumption? Is the noise level higher at highway speeds? Could I live with it?

Joe
how do they[4.44s] drive as a regular road vehicle?
With 37% more torque in first,
31% more torque in second,
and 25% more in third and fourth,
they drive VERY well!
Where I live with nothing but turns and hills, (and 0 spare time )
they are the perfect gears.
Are they acceptable?
The only person I have met who is not a fan of them, is Diana, who was raised with a 1600cc four speed manual transmission Pinto
It sounds to her like its time to shift at 2500 rpm.
Do the lower ratios increase consumption?
Gas mileage is still good at 23-25 highway, and 18 city.
Some have reported a mpg INCREASE with the 4.44s.
Is the noise level higher at highway speeds?
To me it is smoother.
Could I live with it?
I think so, in fact I think you would LOVE it.
Drive one.
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3000 Engine rpm = 72 mph.


BTW;
With a 4.44,
6940 Engine rpm=10,000 driveshaft rpm.
10,000 driveshaft rpm =2433.09 axle rpm.
With a stock size tire, 24.86” tall that translates into 179.94709 mph.
In my spreadsheet Tom, I have 70mph = 3002 rpm for the 4.44, so we are not far out there, close agreement.

However, respectfully, there is something funny in the maths of your last proposition.

If 3000 =72mph, then 6940 = 72/3000x6940, which is 166.6mph [well, assuming torque converter locked and all, you know what I mean]

This 166.6 is close to what's in my spreadsheet, but a good bit short of your 179.9 calculation.

Would you have measured the size of the standard wheel off the vehicle? The rolling radius tends to be less than half the height of the wheel with the weight of the vehicle in place. It's the rolling radius that determines how far each revolution carries the car forward.

167 is a reasonable top speed in a country where some of our motorways [highways] have a 60 top limit!

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how do they[4.44s] drive as a regular road vehicle?
With 37% more torque in first,
31% more torque in second,
and 25% more in third and fourth,
they drive VERY well!
Where I live with nothing but turns and hills, (and 0 spare time )
they are the perfect gears.
Are they acceptable?
The only person I have met who is not a fan of them, is Diana, who was raised with a 1600cc four speed manual transmission Pinto
It sounds to her like its time to shift at 2500 rpm.
Do the lower ratios increase consumption?
Gas mileage is still good at 23-25 highway, and 18 city.
Some have reported a mpg INCREASE with the 4.44s.
Is the noise level higher at highway speeds?
To me it is smoother.
Could I live with it?
I think so, in fact I think you would LOVE it.
Drive one.
Tom

I'm hearing you buddy.

My brother's JDM Forester Turbo has 4.44s, though manual. It MOVES when you push the Excitement Pedal.

The 4.44 is sure to be able to take more punishment because of the torque handling.

Decision made. I'll go for All The Fours.

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In my spreadsheet Tom, I have 70mph = 3002 rpm for the 4.44, so we are not far out there, close agreement.

However, respectfully, there is something funny in the maths of your last proposition.

If 3000 =72mph, then 6940 = 72/3000x6940, which is 166.6mph [well, assuming torque converter locked and all, you know what I mean]

This 166.6 is close to what's in my spreadsheet, but a good bit short of your 179.9 calculation.

Would you have measured the size of the standard wheel off the vehicle? The rolling radius tends to be less than half the height of the wheel with the weight of the vehicle in place. It's the rolling radius that determines how far each revolution carries the car forward.

167 is a reasonable top speed in a country where some of our motorways [highways] have a 60 top limit!

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