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Old 12-05-2003, 05:37 AM
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Speeding on Rt 80 in NJ

I have been driving rather fast in the mornings but now that has changed, about 2 months ago very normally looking cars that are unmarked NJ State Trooper cars starting showing up. These are not the Ford Crown Vic’s with black outside mirrors with that panel for the red flashing light that I can see a mile away but for an example a Chevy Impala without any antenna and without any black box sitting on the dash. The flashing lights are well concealed and small to the point where I think, when I see a car pulled over, that I may not notice these lights behind me. The unmarked cars I have seen look very normal. Not like a cruiser at all. The colors are metallic, green, brown, gold and have all the trim. I am not sure of the other makes and models being used. I really think these new cruisers could be right next to me or behind me and I would not notice them. I have also seen a Chevy Express van unmarked, except for the side door shields that had a car pulled over. Again without any outward appearance from the front or back that it was Trooper.

So now I am finding myself driving the speed limit because in the past few weeks the number of troopers pulling over cars has increased dramatically. I used to see about one trooper in morning in a marked car, I think he was going home, driving along with the traffic at 80 mph and letting everyone be and that was it. Now I am passing 4 or 5 troopers in the morning that have pulled people over going east. Everybody has slowed down.

I am following a philosophy that as long as I am not the “fastest car” I will not be getting a ticket and that has worked for the past 8 years I have been commuting. Now I just have to drive a lot slower and it is torture in the SVX. I have to curtail irresistible urges to speed ahead at 90 mph and I am no longer seeing anyone else at that speed. I need to get back out and do some more time trials on a race track.
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Old 12-05-2003, 08:16 AM
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I followed a MARKED PA state police car that was a newer mustang SVT the other day. It had a light bar and everything. Yeesh...

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Old 12-05-2003, 08:41 AM
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Put it this way guys, your troopers are not doing the bastardly deeds like in IL and WI. Here, they gang bang you. I have seen/heard small aircrafts checking speeds on your car. I have also seen a single car on top of a bridge with a Laser and another 7 or so troopers waiting at the off ramp to get the whole group. I just drop my brother off last Sunday and I saw 2 of those groups on I 55. Now you can not say I was going with the speed.

I have seen cops using unmarked camaros, transams, mustangs and such but I started seeing SUVs like explorers and durangos and imports like Hondas. I would never pull over if a honda had flashing lights a couple of years back but they are legit undercover cars now.
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Old 12-05-2003, 11:10 AM
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They have a 5 series BMW in SC and also they are using a dodge stratus undercover along with the usual camaros.

The state trooper who drives one camaro will wear a baseball cap backwards and egg people on to race him on the highway, then pull them over if they do.
I have had an unmarked camaro rev on me at a stoplight but I was coherent enough to look for the radar gun on the pillar and not fall for the trick.

My dad (police captain) drives an unmarked impala. A bunch of antennas on it but other than that you would not know. He had a guy in a WRX race him the other day from a stoplight.
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Old 12-05-2003, 11:36 AM
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My dad (police captain) drives an unmarked impala. A bunch of antennas on it but other than that you would not know. He had a guy in a WRX race him the other day from a stoplight.

Matt,
I think this one qualifies for a "Darwin award". Just what did your Dad say to him when he asked for his license and registration?
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Old 12-05-2003, 12:15 PM
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Indiana and Kentucky have both been using unmarked Mustangs (5.0's with a "kick") and Camaros (their version, known as "Cormaros" since they sport the LT1 Corvette Engine) for years. They've introduced the Impalas into the mix now. All are quite benign until . . . . .
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thanks for the warning John...you also got to watch the SUV's too...

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Old 12-05-2003, 02:36 PM
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Matt,
I think this one qualifies for a "Darwin award". Just what did your Dad say to him when he asked for his license and registration?
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He didn't even pull him over. I think he was trying to take him but he wouldn't admit it.

I think he has pulled only 1 guy over in the last 10 years and that was right after he got home from work and pulled in our driveway a guy flew by at an estimated 90mph. He chased him down and pulled him but didn't even give him a ticket - says it's too much paperwork. He just read him the riot act I guess.
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The state trooper who drives one camaro will wear a baseball cap backwards and egg people on to race him on the highway, then pull them over if they do.
That seems an awful lot like entrapment to me...

Just like if a police woman is an undercover hooker, you have to proposition her, not her proposition you... thats illegal....



P.S. NO, I dont know from personal experience.
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Old 12-05-2003, 03:19 PM
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Well, since there's no real verbal proposition I guess you wouldn't have a leg to stand on in court.

"but your honor, he revved his engine at me, I had no choice but to race"

Sucks, doesn't it.
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That seems an awful lot like entrapment to me...

Just like if a police woman is an undercover hooker, you have to proposition her, not her proposition you... thats illegal....



P.S. NO, I dont know from personal experience.

Yes, Chris. I'm sure you "DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN." We've all heard THAT before.
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