Driving the SVX:Lift Off oversteer!?

[Ottobon]

i know i know, ive been spamming like crazy, but theirs not a huge amount of rescources about this car, so ill try to make this my last thread for awile,

anyways im interested in basically how the SVX handles, i know i like the ride and feel of the car, but i dont know anything about the balance of teh car as i cant exactly take the cars ive test driven to a skid pad, anyways im comming from a later model mki MR2, which has the later revised and much more consistent rear suspension geometry(roll centers and bump steer corrected starting 1987, similar thing happened with mkii where the 1991 and 1992 had crap rear suspension geometry and then it was fixed 3rd year in, 1993)

anyways i know our cars are front wheel drive biased, so their wont be much oversteer on exit in the U.S. spec cars, and they have that crazy active diff, so it wouldnt stay oversteery anyways, but i was wondering if with precise driving techniques if lift off/braking oversteer can be achieved, in the mr2 i can do it on the track pretty comfidently and its hella fun! but i was wondering if anybody has ever had any sort of experience in a SVX

i dont plan on changing the springs or sway bars as i like the ride quality too much, but anyways, eitherway the car deffenetily has stolen my heart, i was just wondering about tihs one last detail, and driving (at the track) in general

[mikecg]

Mine is exstremely tail happy. I have no trouble oversteering. Of course, I do have an STi tranny with rear biasing. The best way to acheive what your after is going to be changing the sway bars. I dont think you would compomise the ride too much. My Spec-V is FWD and rides decent, but go into a turn too hot and lift off and you'll be chasing the tail.

[shotgunslade]

Have never experienced lift throttle oversteer. If you are drifting through a turn, you definitely can use more lock and throttle to tighten your line, but you will still be understeering. Trail braking works. You can bring the rear end around that way. Be careful, though, because if it really breaks loose due to too much braking after turn-in, the rear end can come loose completely and very fast. This is based on WRX 5MT with 50/50 f/r torque split.

[Budfreak]

Mine will liftoff oversteer pretty confidently, But I've really got to be moving to make it happen ever since I did the rear suspension mod. It seems to hold on much better now than before.

[PDSides]

You want lift-off oversteer? Buy a Porsche.
Preston

[stallion]

Originally Posted by PDSides

You want lift-off oversteer? Buy a Porsche.
Preston

That's true. Keep in mind what the SVX is... consider that its 3600 lbs (or more, forgot exact number), that the 4EAT it comes with does not like to be raced, and that this was meant to be a GT car. I'm talking without a tranny swap, and such.

But with that money you might as well buy another MR2 to have fun with.

[Ottobon]

Originally Posted by PDSides

You want lift-off oversteer? Buy a Porsche.
Preston

i never said i needed it as a requirement for fun, i dont want alot of lift off oversteer, i just wanted to know if the SVX had any,

the mr2 is about as rear heavy as i need right now , its a great little car, and makes me want to concentrate souly on driving, and this is all on a car with 174k on the stock suspension. the thing is, as a daily driver its kinda noisy(wind) and as its not galvanized the chassi rusts and i live in Michigan, so i cant depend on it if i want to have the car sometime from now(which i do), also i just happen to really like alot of the design philosophy behind the SVX, and as i plan on making the MR2 a more agressive car, id like to have something to drive that will act more as a companion and less as a mistress, if that makes any sence

to be honest ive been daily driving the MR2 all the time that i can(when its not broken) for about two years, and strange thing is is that i actually think i like it a bit more now that i understand its purpose then i did right after i bought it, but i really really love the SVX(from the little bit ive driven it) so i just kinda wanted to know what a SVX was like in bed(on the track)

[TomsSVX]

Shotgunslade put it perfectly... The car is not prone to oversteer except in one situation... Tailbraking... THis is when you hit a turn hot, hit the brakes hard enough to scuff the rear tires and you are able to point the car where you want and have a controled drift using the throttle to balance... Now the active diff is where you need to be concerned... A car with a slippery clutch pack will not do this so easily but one with good transfer clutches will... The nature of the car is a FWDer and AWD when you simply NEED it...

Tom

[Earthworm]

I've only really done it once...by accident. It was during autox in the rain. Instead of braking before turning I stayed on the gas too long then I lifted, braked and turned all at the same time. The back end came around in a hurry!

This is with a WRX 5MT tranny with 50/50 power distribution.

[mikecg]

With the STi tranny, All I need is cold tires, and to turn the wheel and touch the gas.

[Ottobon]

which trannies have they manually adjustable tourqe split?, it sounds awesome!

[KevinM]

The only real time I experience the lift off oversteer is in autocross. My stocker will loose it if I get into a turn or slalom too fast and chop the throttle, sometimes pretty wild. It is a heavy car, once it gets going it has that weight behind it.

Overall: buy an SVX