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Old 06-14-2015, 09:51 PM
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OK, I've looked at all the postings in this thread, as well as the mods made to the cars. I'll assume no one is running in the H street class of SCCA. If so the cars are so illegal I'd be ashamed to say I know you. As I've read the rules, (former Modified Category Advisory Committee member), and researched the SCCA rules for over 30 years I've found the following to be not allowed in Street. The other than stock dimension wheels, 4.44's, QC, to name 3 off the top of my head. Each of which I've considered and to add those moves the car to really lofty categories. What groups are you guys running in so I can see if there are any events near Indiana, and the rules allow these mods?

I can see the logic in "there aren't any of these out there and no one will know it's illegal so I can get away with it" mentality but really?
You would be correct to assume that no one who you have seen reply to this thread is running in H street class with the modifications they have listed........therefore rendering the entire remainder of your post (after that assumption) useless. So the only thing for you to be ashamed of is your rant that targets only those in your imagination.
No one here cheats. In fact, because of the rarity of this car, we strive extra hard to maintain compliance and still be competitive.

We autocross with the National Road Autosport club at the Cumberland Airport in Wiley Ford, WV and compete in Hillclimbs and Track Trials sanctioned by the SCCA in Flintstone, MD and at Summit Point Motorsports Park, WV. You are more than welcome to come observe us and see for yourself how "cheaty" we are.
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Old 06-15-2015, 01:52 AM
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Re: Who's Racing Their SVX?

Thank you radarwhiz for helping with the clarification of organizations and classes available and your kind invitation. I hope to be able to get that way in the next year or two and will check for schedules and events that coincide with my travel plans.

An thanks to you svxfiles also for the information of FP for a solo class. As for the fact that you run S2 in time trials that too is admirable. I'm not fortunate enough to live in an area where there is the diverse opportunity for competition with a street car as on the East Coast. You folks are truly lucky. There aren't any hillclimbs in out area either and your enlightenment to me of the vehicles you have to compete against is appreciated. Both of you have proven to me that there is class in the people who compete in vehicles that may be outclassed but do the best they can within the rules. I do feel your rude statement at the end was truly unwarranted. Have a pleasant and successful season to all the honest competitive drivers in this forum.
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Old 06-15-2015, 03:12 AM
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Re: Who's Racing Their SVX?

Sorry for the rude statement. But when you "SEEM" to make a statement calling honest car guys cheaters and that you are
"ashamed to say I know you.",
it makes pig biting mad.


I like our local crowd of Racers and Track Officials. Its a very friendly and accepting group.

Around here in The Country we never see or hear rude.

Actually I have seen rude here twice since 1987.
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Old 06-18-2015, 06:03 AM
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Having autocrossed an SVX for over 10 years, and being very familiar with the SCCA rule book for auto crossing classes/modifications, here's a few things to pass along:

A dead stock SVX running R-comps would be in GS. Now, the recent shift to 140, then 200TW street tires may have bumped this class. No biggie, haven't run "stock" in 8 years

Once modifications begin, the trail is STX, ESP, FP. Really sporty, and you can play with the big boys in XP.

Please be careful to judge, as those of us dedicated to racing the SVX have solid engineering and hands-on mechanic backgrounds. We understand the rules an fully recognize where we "fit in".

'Nuff said

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Old 06-20-2015, 12:01 PM
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Thanks Bill, I'm sorry for the inference I made about being legal. I feel the same way as you and others that responded to my post. The SVX is now H Street. I've enjoyed the events I've been to and it's bone stock with the addition of front sway bar bushings. The right one self destructed and came out so had to replace it. I have 4.44 trans and rear end waiting for the failure of the stock unit and know I'll be changing classes. Right now I'm doing what is legal in Street. I'll add a rear bar to the original, with custom made mounts, and hope to find some wheels to mount smaller OD tires on to help with the current gearing. They'll be a bit less wide however with the AWD I figure it'll work. Also less wide has less sidewall flex and more stability of the tread. Still trying to figure out what to do about struts. There's a lot of info on the board but out of my price range. Looks like stock replacements may be my choice. I've been in Stock, Prepared, and Modified categories in the past and done all my mods so I'm just looking at what I can do legal. The other thing I'm considering is using windshield polyurethane, and injecting it into all the cavities in the suspension and engine mounts. May be illegal, have to reread the rules. Guess it would move me to STX sooner than I'd want. Again thanks for the reply and good luck with your autocrossing also.
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Old 06-20-2015, 04:22 PM
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solodon, one of the things we did with The Racer was to remove the rear sway bar to get it to rotate quicker/better.
On two of my street SVXi I have installed a heavier rear bar and love the feel of it, on the street.
However when the local Subaru Track Star, (Mike Moran) tells me to do something, I know that He knows better than me!
But then again 2500#s and slicks.
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one of the things we did with The Racer was to remove the rear sway bar to get it to rotate quicker/better.
The reason to remove the rear bar was for better traction and less understeer on throttle. It's more than happy to rotate on entry, trail-braking.
After apex, getting back on throttle with any steering angle, the inside rear was light enough to cause the center diff to cut rear power making it fwd.
But in HS I certainly would not recommend removing it!!
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Re: Who's Racing Their SVX?

Thanks for the discussion on the rear bar. I've installed and removed rear bars over the years also. I can see where on the track it might be good to remove the bar but since autocross is "supposed" to be closer to street driving and speeds it just seems to make sense to add rear bar. What does the stock SVX weight in street trim? Also what is the torque split F/R and what determines the changes? It would be good to know this I think. I have only run at events in manual 1 and it's not shifted to 2 yet and if I run tomorrow, I know it won't shift at that site either. I've been running more air in the rear and the car seems to rotate very well but I've driven FWD a lot over the years and a few RWD. I've not had much understeer from the SVX unless my head was in the wrong dark place.
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Old 06-20-2015, 08:05 PM
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Thanks for the discussion on the rear bar. I've installed and removed rear bars over the years also. I can see where on the track it might be good to remove the bar but since autocross is "supposed" to be closer to street driving and speeds it just seems to make sense to add rear bar. What does the stock SVX weight in street trim?
Also what is the torque split F/R and what determines the changes? It would be good to know this I think. I have only run at events in manual 1 and it's not shifted to 2 yet and if I run tomorrow, I know it won't shift at that site either. I've been running more air in the rear and the car seems to rotate very well but I've driven FWD a lot over the years and a few RWD. I've not had much understeer from the SVX unless my head was in the wrong dark place.
3580#s.

When you are at WOT the transmission TRIES to be 50/50.

Under most on throttle conditions its about 66% to 75% fwd.

I say this because I have had the Subaru Select Moniter connected while driving many, many, many SVXi and watched the read out.

At very light throtle, perhaps going down hill, it could be as much as 90% fwd.
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Thanks SVXFILES. That means that when I'm autocrossing, in first gear and manual every time I go WOT it's trying to be 50/50. That makes me happy. The rest you learn to deal with but I know the car is a BLAST on traffic circles and all corners when I go WOT so that explains why. I thought it was about 3600 lbs from what I've read. Is that GVW or actual scale weight with spare and gas etc.?
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"What is a vehicle curb weight? The curb weight of a vehicle is the total weight of the vehicle with all of its equipment, including a full tank of gas and coolant and motor oil, but without any cargo or passengers. This is the standard weight that is used by manufacturers when assigning a weight to a vehicle.+

According th Subaru the 1992 SVX LSI weighed 3580 and the L weighed
3525 #s for the North American cars.
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I finally got off my ass and am track racing the rally car I brought from Matt a few years back. Its only had one track day so far. The 5 speed that was in the car is sad so I brought a 6 speed and R180 diff.

The car was originally maroon but Matt had preferred it white so he painted it white. Over time that paint was lifting so I bit the bullet and cut the paint back last week, had it resprayed a metallic red. Will post photo of it end of week.

Standard engine at this time.
Here is a video of the car on the track,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFieQTClUhc
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I finally got off my ass and am track racing the rally car I brought from Matt a few years back. Its only had one track day so far. The 5 speed that was in the car is sad so I brought a 6 speed and R180 diff.

The car was originally maroon but Matt had preferred it white so he painted it white. Over time that paint was lifting so I bit the bullet and cut the paint back last week, had it resprayed a metallic red. Will post photo of it end of week.

Standard engine at this time.
Here is a video of the car on the track,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFieQTClUhc

NICE! very nice ......
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Love the videos! What suspension and rim/tire combos are you running?

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I finally got off my ass and am track racing the rally car I brought from Matt a few years back. Its only had one track day so far. The 5 speed that was in the car is sad so I brought a 6 speed and R180 diff.

The car was originally maroon but Matt had preferred it white so he painted it white. Over time that paint was lifting so I bit the bullet and cut the paint back last week, had it resprayed a metallic red. Will post photo of it end of week.

Standard engine at this time.
Here is a video of the car on the track,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFieQTClUhc
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Hi Bill,
Suspension is the DMS that were on it when I brought it from Matt. They were rally struts so I am changing them around a bit and getting new ones for the front to lower the car.
Rims are 17in 7.5 wide and have Hankook Ventus 2214, size 235 55 17 in which are a semi slick.
Going to a race track called Phillip Island in a week, its a very fast track so should be interesting.
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