2006 MazdaSpeed 6

[Chiketkd]

Originally posted by soobiesvx93
Chike we have a C32 AMG....you wouldn't be dissapointed

Who in your family drives it Tom? That's a sweet car, but the only -ve I have against it is the lack of awd...

-Chike

[Landshark]

interesting read for Chike - found it on LegacyGT.com.....

Not really haldex is a part time AWD system because of the lack of a center diffrential. It can never shift power front and back, just back. It is basicly FWD with up to 50% RWD assist.

It can only "shift" power back by coupling the rear driveline. This type of system is similar to a crossover system found in many cute utes. Like the rav 4 or honda CRV. That "actively" shift power to the back... The problem is there is NO power to the rear wheels to begin with unlike true full time AWD.
It basicly steals power from the front transaxle to get the rear wheels spinning.

The legacy's 4 wheels is receiving power all the time because it has a center diffrential not just a clutch pack coupling. Thus it is full time AWD. The power need not be shifted to the rear wheels because the power is already there.

The MS6 system is nowhere NEAR the level of sophistication found in the STI or the 5eat.

Those systems use an electromagneticly clutch LIMITED Planetary gear center diffrentials. It is NOT a simple haldex coupling. Power is already AT all wheels all the time without computer intervention. There is a constant torque bias ratio and the center electromagnetic clutch just adjusts the limited slip function depending on the condition.

Im not sure if you understand what im trying to explain... but there is a HUGE diffrence between the two the only similarity is that they use clutches.

Actively "shifts" power is a misnomer. Actively "steals 50 percent of the power" from the front wheels to spin the rear wheels which has ZERO inital torque load to begin with. Is a more accurate term.

Contrary to popular belief I don't bash haldex because im a subbie elitist I bash it because it is haldex and I understand how the sytem works it is not real full time AWD nor does it act like full time AWD.

[Chiketkd]

You're preaching to the choir Alan.

I'm growing more and more in love with Subaru each day, and I don't think I could ever leave this brand behind...

I've been looking on-line at some '05 Legacy 2.5GT's (non limited edition) for sale and I'm finding low mileage (<5K) examples going for $22-23K!!! I've also been reading up on the www.legacygt.com/ forum and they're members making over 300hp at the wheels who've experienced no problems with the 'beefed up' 5MT's breaking.

Looks like I should have a 2.5GT in my driveway within a year (the payments on a slightly used one are already perfect at the prices they're going for today) - wife and I just want to secure a house first.

-Chike

[Landshark]

Originally posted by Chiketkd
You're preaching to the choir Alan.

I'm growing more and more in love with Subaru each day, and I don't think I could ever leave this brand behind...

I've been looking on-line at some '05 Legacy 2.5GT's (non limited edition) for sale and I'm finding low mileage (<5K) examples going for $22-23K!!! I've also been reading up on the www.legacygt.com/ forum and they're members making over 300hp at the wheels who've experienced no problems with the 'beefed up' 5MT's breaking.

Looks like I should have a 2.5GT in my driveway within a year (the payments on a slightly used one are already perfect at the prices they're going for today) - wife and I just want to secure a house first.

-Chike

i was suprised to find that a non-Limited Leg GT weighs less than an STi!

i still can't get past the non-removeable stereo, though. the Brembo's and handling of the STi put it ahead for me, but the multi-spoke wheels and brake pads will be the first things i get rid of.

[Chiketkd]

Originally posted by Landshark
i was suprised to find that a non-Limited Leg GT weighs less than an STi!

The non-limited model (no leather, sunroof and a slew of other luxury options) comes in at a 'svelte' 3300lbs with a 5MT.

The new Legacy just looks like a mature STI for married people with kids!

-Chike

[Chiketkd]

...I'm watching. Talk about a dirt cheap Buy-It-Now price for a 5MT with 3K miles on the odometer!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=4528827607

-Chike

[Chiketkd]

The new Legacy is a real home run in the looks department!







-Chike