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Old 06-08-2004, 07:49 AM
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Used to use a cleaner, CHEM-TOOL, I believe it was toulene.

How is xylene easier on the engine?
Or stated another way,
Is toluene hard on the engine?
I'm not certain what the exact processes are, but toulene tends to dry out plastic and rubber more than xylene. very rarely is it elaborated on. I've used both many times across several cars, and they seem to work pretty much the same. I always see more cautions associated with toulene than xylene. I know it's more toxic, and just generally nastier stuff and that's enough for me to not want to deal with it. that's also why you can't find toulene at chain hardware stores like home depot or lowes. too nasty for them to want to deal with. Paint shops like "bob's discount paint supply" is a good place to get toulene. but again, I reccommend xylene. it's easier to get, anyways.

either way, put a little tranny fluid in your tank. a couple "glugs" worth out of a quart container. then wash it down teh funnel with your solvent of choice.
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Toluene (small amounts of which I believe are present in most gasoline ) is abused by "huffers" and thus may not be easy to find. In the late 60s many stores moved toluene-containing model kit glue behind the counter and sold it only to adults. Vile stuff.


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Old 06-08-2004, 08:55 AM
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Darwin will make short work of anyone huffing toulene.
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Old 06-08-2004, 04:10 PM
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In the gumball 3000 video i have the guy does 1/2 a tank of 93 then the rest with paint thinner for his skyline...LOL...but then he goes on to talk how he has a fuel pump off a F-15 or some ****...the most we ever did was 4 walbro's in a tank.......heh.
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I heard also that you have to reset your ECU for the ECU to read new octane, or calibrate for new octane...

Dunno tho..
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Old 06-08-2004, 04:17 PM
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It only takes a little distance for the ECU to learn the new settings. old values are constantle being overwritten, so it just takes a little while for the memory to overwrite itself. no need to reset.
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I'm not certain what the exact processes are, but toulene tends to dry out plastic and rubber more than xylene. very rarely is it elaborated on. I've used both many times across several cars, and they seem to work pretty much the same. I always see more cautions associated with toulene than xylene. I know it's more toxic, and just generally nastier stuff and that's enough for me to not want to deal with it. that's also why you can't find toulene at chain hardware stores like home depot or lowes. too nasty for them to want to deal with. Paint shops like "bob's discount paint supply" is a good place to get toulene. but again, I reccommend xylene. it's easier to get, anyways.

either way, put a little tranny fluid in your tank. a couple "glugs" worth out of a quart container. then wash it down teh funnel with your solvent of choice.
Okay!

Got the Xylonol at True Value, $9 gallon. Ready with funnel, BUT!

Is there a potential problem in adding xylene to fuels containing MTBE?? Certainly this subject was covering somewhere in your search?

Is MTBE added to your fuel in Maine?

I am ready to pour, but thought that I must ask about MTBE

Thanks for sharing, after 125,000 miles and a decade on the road, my '92 certainly could use this.
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xylene

I did it.

Ran tank of California oxy. gas to nearly empty on trip to Reno for SVX meet. Filled with 2 gallons of xylene, 8 ounces of Marvel Mystery Oil and non-oxy Nevada gas. By the time I got back to California, tank was used.

It ran great, got 23 mpg with myself and three sons. 23 is good for me, especially the way I drive.

I'll see if I notice any smoother idle, running or mpg changes and will post if I do.

Thanks IggDawg!
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Old 12-22-2004, 07:46 AM
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I was searching for the use of toulene because of my hesitation problems. Ive been thinking about dumping some into the tank for a while now to clean the injectors out. So after i fill up my tank how much toulene should i add?
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Do be careful using this stuff.


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The following chemicals are known or suspected carcinogens. This list has been compiled from a number of sources, but it is not (and cannot be) comprehensive.

Toluene diisocyanate
p-toluenesulphonic acid
ortho-Toluidine
ortho-Toluidine hydrochloride
para-Toluidine

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These are toluene compounds, not strictly Toluene, but you catch my drift.

Also see
Toluene data

You would be most at risk from getting it on your skin, or by inhaling it.

In particular, if you put it into your tank in large amounts, be sure you are nowhere near your exhaust until the cats are up to temperature and doing their job. Likewise if you have it in your tank, don't do the "winter thing", heat your car up from cold in a closed garage. You are sure to spew toluene fumes into the garage before the cats heat up.

BE CAREFUL.

Having said all that, I will try it myself. Just be careful of the fumes in enclosed places, OK?

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I was searching for the use of toulene because of my hesitation problems. Ive been thinking about dumping some into the tank for a while now to clean the injectors out. So after i fill up my tank how much toulene should i add?
Soobie, don't do it that way, it won't mix well.

Put a gallon in the tank when nearly empty, and then fill up immediately with gas.

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1 gallon for a full tank is good.
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Almost forgot about doing this...might have to give it a try. I may even do it for the dyno runs.....
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May not help for the dyno runs. My experience was that my car is faster w/o the toluene, but after the toluene was through the motor, the car did seem to run more smoothly.
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May not help for the dyno runs. My experience was that my car is faster w/o the toluene, but after the toluene was through the motor, the car did seem to run more smoothly.
Hmmm. Ok, might just run some to clean it out then.
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