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Old 09-29-2008, 08:53 PM
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I think this deserves a reply as it is a topic I have previously yet am still interested in discussing seriously (and also I don't want her to think she's been ignored)
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But, I think half the problem with alot of today's kids and the violence has to do A LOT with the music and videogames of today. But mostly the video games. Grand Theft Auto doesn't help much. It encourages you to kill people and steal cars and other stuff like that.
There is another person with this belief. His name is Jack Thompson and he is notorious within the video gamer circles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney)

This man devotes his life to "exposing" violence in video games as the harbinger of doom for today's youth.

Well, it only takes one rebuttal to prove, yes prove this theory of violent video games being horrible, is a wash.

Bad kids have existed looooong before video entertainment. Violent video games, and movies, and music are popular because these tendencies are natural in humans, as they are natural in most living creatures.

You see some bad kids? Blame hormones. That's ok. Blame other bad kids. That's ok. Blame the parents. That is more than ok. Don't blame media. The media exists because of the nature, not the other way around.

You might argue that say a violent musical piece sets free dormant violent intentions, and you could be right. You could also say an angry parent, or friend, or random person can do the same thing with mere words and actions that aren't even set to a catchy beat. Again, the point remains these angry and rebellious feelings were pre-existent.

Violent media is simply an easy scapegoat, and a lot of people need it. I need to be able to blast people online with an M4A1 Carbine. I feel great when I do it. Sometimes I get angry when they do it to me. Matter of fact I get angry very easily when I get shot up. Does it make me want to go shoot things up for real? No. I'd never think of it. Well, I did shoot some metal targets (backed by a huge mound of dirt) recently but they didn't complain much. (:
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Old 09-29-2008, 09:27 PM
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Re: Definition of teenage behavior

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I think this deserves a reply as it is a topic I have previously yet am still interested in discussing seriously (and also I don't want her to think she's been ignored)


There is another person with this belief. His name is Jack Thompson and he is notorious within the video gamer circles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney)

This man devotes his life to "exposing" violence in video games as the harbinger of doom for today's youth.

Well, it only takes one rebuttal to prove, yes prove this theory of violent video games being horrible, is a wash.

Bad kids have existed looooong before video entertainment. Violent video games, and movies, and music are popular because these tendencies are natural in humans, as they are natural in most living creatures.

You see some bad kids? Blame hormones. That's ok. Blame other bad kids. That's ok. Blame the parents. That is more than ok. Don't blame media. The media exists because of the nature, not the other way around.

You might argue that say a violent musical piece sets free dormant violent intentions, and you could be right. You could also say an angry parent, or friend, or random person can do the same thing with mere words and actions that aren't even set to a catchy beat. Again, the point remains these angry and rebellious feelings were pre-existent.

Violent media is simply an easy scapegoat, and a lot of people need it. I need to be able to blast people online with an M4A1 Carbine. I feel great when I do it. Sometimes I get angry when they do it to me. Matter of fact I get angry very easily when I get shot up. Does it make me want to go shoot things up for real? No. I'd never think of it. Well, I did shoot some metal targets (backed by a huge mound of dirt) recently but they didn't complain much. (:

I drove a schoolbus, so I had a LOT of time with other peoples kids. I drove the 'run' that went over hill and dale. I did this for a living before my kids were born. I had a little bit of 'experience' with kids before I tried it myself.

I had (2) trips with (2) loads of 64 kids, each. In 'redneck math' I had 128 of 'other' peoples kids EVERY school day.

The ones that caused me problems are either in jail or dead. PERIOD.

The ones that were good kids then are good adults now. I have kinda tracked them.. I have very little to add to this post,

On my 'parting' shot. The quiet 4th grader that rode my bus was the youngest daughter of a bar fighting alcoholic. She is now my SUPERVISOR!! I HELPED her get the job! We worked together, I saw her potential, I did all I could to help her advance. I do not regret my decision!

So much for 'genetics'!!

Everyone is capable of MURDER or Sainthood. It's all about personal CHOICES and resposibility! No excuses. You are what you are. What you are is determined by the choices you make.
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Re: Definition of teenage behavior

I was for some reason avoiding it but here it is.

I don't think video games and music are the source of teenage behavior, but in fact the product. These cames and albums are being produced by a slightly higher age range in most cases who are venting the frustrations that are being blamed on the very same games. Think about it that way for a second and I'm sure you will see the logic.

I will however add that much of todays music is is actually producing speech impairments. Consider these young people growing up and not realizing their music is less than appropriate for their child and allowing them to hear it.... now consider the amount of slang and slurred words in some songs, it truly would be discouraged by any speech therapist.
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I do agree that rap music (which I love) can cause speech impediments

IF the listener does not keep a good polish on his English, which is one reason I spend a lot of times on forums. I listen to rap music and find myself speaking in ways that would not impress people.

Take one look at youtube comments and you will see how bad it is getting for people who do not care about the language they speak. Try to argue with them and they respond with "bich dis iz slang ddint u no stfu man ur stpuid azz".

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I respond with the question, who doesn't have their many unsaid reasons for doing anything?

It was a bluff anyway, I have yet to make up any reason for the poll. I'm just interested in numbers.

I'm not really looking for an all-inclusive definition of anything. I have my own definitions that probably won't change. I just wanted to see if anyone had anything intelligent to say on the topic and it went in a completely different direction that I wanted, but that was the suspected outcome. Instead of a mostly serious discussion, I get this, and I get labeled as an emo teenager.

So it is.
If you want a serious discussion, ask a serious question - not a "bluff". I have have to admit, my first reaction to your initial post was "huh?"
So - looks like you got what you were after.
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If you want a serious discussion, ask a serious question - not a "bluff". I have have to admit, my first reaction to your initial post was "huh?"
So - looks like you got what you were after.
I don't think you quite understand what I meant by bluff. What I meant is I hadn't seriously considered any hidden agenda, I merely said I did because it is something I commonly do and should be expected and I figured I would have a few good reasons. The discussion never took off so I "folded", so to speak.

What does "huh" mean?
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If I put a smiley face on my avatar will people stop thinking everything I say is dead balls serious?








Will people reading this ignore the fact I just said "dead balls" and think I'm asking a serious question?




I dunno.





I don't




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some of you people.
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