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Old 04-09-2007, 08:59 PM
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Any info on this?

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Old 04-09-2007, 09:43 PM
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:32 PM
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:10 AM
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:16 AM
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Internal combustion is already 99% efficient - that leaves a 'possible' 1% room for improvement, not 30-50%. Whoever buys one of these, or the Tornado, or that pill that goes in the fuel tank gets what they deserve
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Old 04-10-2007, 12:21 PM
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We told you this vapor was injected into the intake manifold. To be more specific, we install the Fuel Atomizer 2000 in the PCV line . The hydro-carbons and emissions that normally pass through the PCV valve to be re-burned are collected in the sludge chamber of the Fuel Atomizer 2000. Some members found this to help them pass the emissions test whereas otherwise they would not.
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:12 PM
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Internal combustion is already 99% efficient - that leaves a 'possible' 1% room for improvement, not 30-50%. Whoever buys one of these, or the Tornado, or that pill that goes in the fuel tank gets what they deserve
99% efficient? I think my physics prof. would disagree
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We've tested nowhere near all of the fuel-saver gadgets on the market, and I'm sure purveyors of others will be waiting in our lobby soon. But not one of the items we tested worked. At all. There's no ignoring the laws of physics, people. Your vehicle already burns over 99 percent of the fuel you pay for. Less than 1 percent is squandered as partially burned hydrocarbons and carbon monoxide before the exhaust hits the catalytic converter for the last laundering. Even if one of these miracle gadgets could make the combustion process 100 percent complete, the improvement in mileage resulting would be 1 percent. Any device that claims quantum-level increases needs to be examined with considerable skepticism.
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:37 PM
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99% efficient? I think my physics prof. would disagree
The actual burning of fuel is 99% efficient, there are substantial losses from engine friction, driveline friction, ect....
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The actual burning of fuel is 99% efficient, there are substantial losses from engine friction, driveline friction, ect....
IC engines are on average around 20% efficient. Why else do you think vehicles need cooling systems? Most energy from combustion is lost through radiated heat. Even under optimal conditions (like one set rpm with no throttle plate and cams ground to take best advantage of that engine speed) an engine would be lucky to see much over 50% efficiency. Friction losses are taken out of the 20% or so that actually is converted to useable work.

Volumetric efficiencies can get over 100%... but that is something completed different.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:34 AM
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Another "guaranteed" product brought to you by Nigerian Engineering.

Even Ripimoff Industries would cringe.

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IC engines are on average around 20% efficient. Why else do you think vehicles need cooling systems? Most energy from combustion is lost through radiated heat. Even under optimal conditions (like one set rpm with no throttle plate and cams ground to take best advantage of that engine speed) an engine would be lucky to see much over 50% efficiency. Friction losses are taken out of the 20% or so that actually is converted to useable work.

Volumetric efficiencies can get over 100%... but that is something completed different.
So based on your statement, it could work.
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:13 PM
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It can't because nothing you add to your fuel or air is going to make use of the radiated heat or prevent radiated heat.

What would work is a block made out of an indestructable material that deflects heat rather than absorb it.
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:45 PM
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I think he was referencing dumb and dumber. So your sayin there's a chance!
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