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Open letter to the Moderators
I'm very concerned over the recent closing of the Mac rumor thread. What was happening there was not a personal attack? It was an expression meant to instruct. Sometimes that type of statement has an "open my eyes" result that goes both ways. I don't feel that I said anything to offend anyone. Even if I did, that person has the right to hear (or read) what was said. The reasons that I'm here are the close friends that I have made with common interests and to find out as much about this wonderful car that most of us here either own or want.
I don't want to start pointing fingers at any single moderator, but Nazi regulations and censorship should not be a part of this group. I'm all for the moderation of language and the relegation of posts to pertinent Forums. However stifling the free expression of feelings and potential conversations should not be the moderators’ prerogative. This forum is like a schoolyard. Sometimes you learn good stuff and sometimes you find out things that shouldn't be shared in polite company. Sometimes the kids fight. But ya know what, as in many human social relationships, those that were fighting come to be the best of friends... It's only by exploring the limits of a relationship that one can form a lasting bond. \ So here's my plea. Please don't turn into Storm troopers here. Moderate the language and watch the personal attacks, but watch out for the stifling behavior that comes from over zealous prosecution. Thank you
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"uncamitzi" This is a Dark Ride 92 Teal SVX LS-L 128K tranny swap with 4.11's Well.. my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle . |
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Re: Open letter to the Moderators
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Like I told you yesterday on the IRC, people should not provoke each other. In this particular case, I don't see anything wrong with closing and moving of the thread. It was going downhill. If a member goes out of line (in the opinion of the moderator(s)), they are given the right to pull the thread. Sometimes it might be overboard. (ie usage of the colourful word h3ll) but in the case of the aformentioned thread, you were asking for it. Quote:
Don't give the guy the attention he wants. It'll go away. Lwin (equal opportunity offender) edit: if anyone wants to talk about my personal opinion on this and many other issues, I am in the IRC room #SVX every night.
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Personally, I think this should have remained private, but here it is, so let's go.
In this case, here's what happened. GreenMarine started a thread in this forum, and it was in my opinion totally innocuous. At some point people started bickering. We, the moderators, received complaints. Here's how we responded: 1. I sent PMs to two of the parties involved. What I said to them was for their eyes only, but it was meant to curb such outbursts in the future. 2. Doug split the thread. The cancerous half of the thread, the part containing the stupid argument, was moved to a forum that only the moderators and admins have access to. We keep things there for future reference. The rest of it he left, but closed. There was little or nothing to be gained by leaving it open, and doing so would probably have resulted in a similar argument anyway. This is part of our job as moderators, guys. We keep the peace by moderating discussions. That doesn't mean 'Nazi censorship' - it just means that when things get ugly, we separate the parties involved and ask them politely not to do it any more. There's a fine line - arguing is okay, but bickering is not. When an argument turns personal, what does that add to the group? Why should we not step in? It's not censorship, guys - it's moderation. We also handle complaints we get about members' behavior, inappropriate language, etc.
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You insulted me. You insulted Phil. You've sent me PMs calling me an ignorant troll. You've called Phil ignorant.
Please don't do it again. - Rob |
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"uncamitzi" This is a Dark Ride 92 Teal SVX LS-L 128K tranny swap with 4.11's Well.. my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle . |
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If people would have been able to talk about the subject again instead of posting only things to insult another it would have remained open. Doug
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Geez I hope this wasn't the same thread regarding the 'Speak & Spell' debauchery!
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"uncamitzi" This is a Dark Ride 92 Teal SVX LS-L 128K tranny swap with 4.11's Well.. my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle . |
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You never had a 'Speak & Spell' Mitch?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=2541 MAC, PC, Speak & Spell...all the same |
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Did it get censored too?
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"uncamitzi" This is a Dark Ride 92 Teal SVX LS-L 128K tranny swap with 4.11's Well.. my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle . |
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Oh god.... What have I started??? I was only courious as to why the thread was closed, nothing more... I didn't want to start an attack on the moderators at all. I'll try to keep my mouth shut from now on about things that are "out of my pay grade"... Plain and simple, the moderators are here to keep us in line... I guess I am kinda trying to relate it to the military a little... That is helping me see it alittle better I didn't mean to start an arguement... I'll just respect the moderators for what they do and not make anything out of anything else that gets posted... Lets all just shake hands (or whateverelse ya like to do ) and be friends... Apoligize for insults and move on huh??? That sounds alot more peaceful than feeling anger twards someone that ya will probably never meet (unless ya go to Reading )
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In the future, you might want to PM the mod that close the thread. The mods normally leave the last message saying it's closed
Kind of like kilroy was here crap
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Lwin M. Maung (Member # 147) Current SVX: • NONE Previous SVXes: •1994 LE Barcelona Red 107k • 1992 LS-L Pearl White 143k • 1994 LSi Bordeaux Pearl 220k • 1992 LS-L Ebony Pearl 184k • 1992 LS-L Liquid Silver 145k • 1992 LS-L Liquid Silver 102k • 1992 LS-L Ebony Pearl 123k Other current cars:•2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Black If at first you don't succeed, CHEAT!
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1992 LS Touring (6/91) - Currently undergoing a five speed swap Black over Claret with spoiler; 235,000 miles; Mods: 2002 Legacy 5 speed, ACT Pressure Plate, Excedy Clutch, Short Throw Shifter, Aussie Powerchip 1992 LS Touring (6/91) Black over Claret with 2.5" setback spoiler; 202,000 miles; Mods: B&M Cooler 1994 LSi (4/93) Bordeaux Pearl; 198,000 miles; Mods: Weight reduction. 1969 Mustang GT Convertible 1970 Mustang Convertible 2000 Ford Excursion Sola lingua bona est lingua mortua. My Locker |
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I had my tongue in my cheek when I wrote that... Hey Marine... lighten up ... I'm only trying to Rouse the Rabble...
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Mitch Hansen
"uncamitzi" This is a Dark Ride 92 Teal SVX LS-L 128K tranny swap with 4.11's Well.. my days of not taking you seriously have certainly come to a middle . |
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