BRZ - Page 3

SilverSpear · #31 10-07-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dbarnblatt

And the BRZ is a niche car... the only other car out there that even comes close to the BRZ layout/size is a Miata. There is nothing else is like it.

What about the Celica? The Hyundai Coupe?

I saw the Toyota version at the local dealership, I didn't feel the car at all. It is just another underpowered Nissan 350z to me..
The funny thing, looking at the engine bay, the fenders are pressed "Subaru" among other stuff

dbarnblatt · #32 10-07-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverSpear

What about the Celica? The Hyundai Coupe?

I saw the Toyota version at the local dealership, I didn't feel the car at all. It is just another underpowered Nissan 350z to me..
The funny thing, looking at the engine bay, the fenders are pressed "Subaru" among other stuff

I knew this comparison would come up... so lets look at the physical numbers for size and weight between a BRZ and a Hyundai Coupe... weight being the biggest and most important comparison:

Weight
BRZ: 2762 lbs.
Hyundai: 3554 lbs.

Length
BRZ: 166"
Hyundai: 182"

Wheelbase:
BRZ: 101"
Hyundai: 111"

Height:
BRZ: 50"
Hyundai: 54"

Not to mention center of gravity and weight distribution on the BRZ. Cars like the Hyundai and the 350z don't even come close. The BRZ is practically in a different class.

The BRZ is a tiny car... only the Miata comes into comparison.

Some may argue that the Hyundai has more power... yes, but there is nothing like driving a 2800lbs. car compared to a 3500lbs. car. Power can't make up for agility and handling. I'm not talking about lap times... I'm talking about seat of your pants fun.

Landshark · #33 10-07-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dbarnblatt

Power can't make up for agility and handling.

i'll take my EVO's double the hp and the extra 800lbs.

the Bilstein shocks, Eibach springs and Brembo brakes don't hurt, either.

dbarnblatt · #34 10-07-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Landshark

i'll take my EVO's double the hp and the extra 800lbs.

the Bilstein shocks, Eibach springs and Brembo brakes don't hurt, either.

I drove a 2006 STi for 5 years. I'm not knocking the high concept hopped up econoboxes like the EVO and STi... in fact I love them. I just can't at all compare a high tech AWD factory super rally sedan with a simple little RWD sports car. Why even compare the two?

Two very different beasts, each fun to drive in it's own way.

Landshark · #35 10-07-2012, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dbarnblatt

I drove a 2006 STi for 5 years. I'm not knocking the high concept hopped up econoboxes like the EVO and STi... in fact I love them. I just can't at all compare a high tech AWD factory super rally sedan with a simple little RWD sports car. Why even compare the two?

Two very different beasts, each fun to drive in it's own way.

You said power doesnt make up for handling, but power AND handling is even better.

Huskymaniac · #36 10-07-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dbarnblatt

I drove a 2006 STi for 5 years. I'm not knocking the high concept hopped up econoboxes like the EVO and STi... in fact I love them. I just can't at all compare a high tech AWD factory super rally sedan with a simple little RWD sports car. Why even compare the two?

Two very different beasts, each fun to drive in it's own way.

FWIW, it is clear to most of us what you are saying, we get it and it makes perfect sense. But, for those whose inadequacies are satisfied by cars:
http://www.hark.com/clips/ptkcvbzdsp-he-doesnt-get-it

Landshark · #37 10-07-2012, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Huskymaniac

FWIW, it is clear to most of us what you are saying, we get it and it makes perfect sense. But, for those whose inadequacies are satisfied by cars:
http://www.hark.com/clips/ptkcvbzdsp-he-doesnt-get-it

My post probably hurt your little feelings. Report it, perhaps?

Huskymaniac · #38 10-07-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Landshark

My post probably hurt your little feelings. Report it, perhaps?

You have to not be shooting blanks to hurt anyone.

Landshark · #39 10-07-2012, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Huskymaniac

You have to not be shooting blanks to hurt anyone.

I'll watch my step, Sally - i dont want to get ratted out.

scoobydo · #40 10-08-2012, 03:46 PM

Howz about this folks !

svx brz.jpg

icingdeath88 · #41 10-08-2012, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by scoobydo

Howz about this folks !

Attachment 16721

I have been waiting for pics like this to start popping up.

dcarrb · #42 10-09-2012, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Landshark

i'll take my EVO's double the hp and the extra 800lbs.

the Bilstein shocks, Eibach springs and Brembo brakes don't hurt, either.

I think the point is, the appeal of this sort of stuff (and near-race-ready capability) is exceedingly limited, but almost everybody understands "fun to drive."

dcb

Landshark · #43 10-09-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dcarrb

I think the point is, the appeal of this sort of stuff (and near-race-ready capability) is exceedingly limited, but almost everybody understands "fun to drive."

dcb

Yeah, my riding mower is "fun to drive" for the first few minutes into cutting the grass.

cozykat · #44 10-23-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by scoobydo

Howz about this folks !

Attachment 16721

Please email me high-res to: ^my handle^ @gmail.com (desktop background found!)

Having both a BRZ and SVX in my driveway.. they handle somewhat similar to me. The BRZ is like the baby brother to the SVX.. the BRZ has a slightly lower drag coefficient and it weighs less but power wise feels the same. The seats are awesome and I've already contemplated test fitting them

However, I understand Larry's description - the BRZ sits really low and with the bucket-esk seats - you kind of fall into the seats and may need to pull yourself out.

Considering they have already gotten a BRZ to 500hp on a stock long block... well it's an improvement if you can get in & out of the car.

my driveway:

jetboy · #45 10-23-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cozykat

Having both a BRZ and SVX in my driveway.. they handle somewhat similar to me. The BRZ is like the baby brother to the SVX.. the BRZ has a slightly lower drag coefficient and it weighs less but power wise feels the same.

This is a radical report, I really, really cant' wait to try a BRZ.

I have a VTD car with a totally unsuitable rubber compound by Toyos, my SVX is a quite tailhappy car. The ill points handling wise except for weight are the bushings, bars and struts (or.. the whole, old suspension). It's not a precision knife and other reports had it the BRZ is.

Again, can't wait.