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Old 05-23-2009, 05:17 PM
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EGR temp sensor cleaned

So I cleaned what I believe to be the EGR temp sensor. Here are some pics. I hope my occasional code 56 disappears now.


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Old 05-23-2009, 06:41 PM
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Re: EGR temp sensor cleaned

Quite the difference, hope it works. I think I'll try it on my Outback, if it has one I can find. I have an occassional EGR code and I've swapped all the components for known working ones from my parts car.
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Old 05-23-2009, 09:09 PM
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Re: EGR temp sensor cleaned

Holy crap! With all that stuff on there, there's no way it was working right. I have a code 55 and 56 popping up myself, I'll have to take a look at mine tomorrow. Hopefully cleaning that fixes it.
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Old 05-24-2009, 06:46 AM
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Re: EGR temp sensor cleaned

So here's another question. When I pulled the sensor out to clean it I looked down inside where the sensor mounts and it looked as bad as the sensor did. Could I spray some carb cleaner down inside there or would all of the gunk get sucked right into the EGR valve and cause problems with it once I started the engine?
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Old 05-26-2009, 06:58 PM
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So here's another question. When I pulled the sensor out to clean it I looked down inside where the sensor mounts and it looked as bad as the sensor did. Could I spray some carb cleaner down inside there or would all of the gunk get sucked right into the EGR valve and cause problems with it once I started the engine?
That's the EGR temp sensor allright, mine was every bit as bad. It's not hard to access and clean, hope that get's the code for ya.

I wouldn't spray in there without everything EGR and control valve & hoses being off to drain. Even then, you might just make a lump of gunk in there that breaks loose at a bad time.

I'm thinking regular use of injector cleaner in the gas and name-brand gas with "techroline" or the equivalent is a better way to reduce engine deposits. I've become a believer recently after taking my intake off for new vacuum hoses. I cleaned the throttle body good, but the intake was not the best, including the other side of the manifold leading down to the valves. It may not reach all the way thru the EGR system, but its a start...
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Old 05-26-2009, 07:03 PM
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Re: EGR temp sensor cleaned

What did you use to clean it? Does it just wipe it off or do you need a solvent?
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Re: EGR temp sensor cleaned

It just wiped off.
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What did you use to clean it? Does it just wipe it off or do you need a solvent?
I took the throttle body off entirely from the intake and sprayed/wiped it down w/carb cleaner. Cleaned up really well. The intake manifold itself would best be cleaned by immersion in solvent, which means you'd first have to remove every hose & solenoid, and then hope you get no dirt into the fuel injection lines. I just put it back together and decided to try some name-brand gas...
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Re: EGR temp sensor cleaned

I thought id add my experience to this thread, since Ive seen a lot of Code 56 issues.

If your EGR temp sensor looks anything like the original posters, you can be assured the piping from the EGR valve to the sensor, and from the sensor to the intake tube to the manifold, look identical. After I removed my EGR valve, I sprayed Brakeleen, using the straw stuck into the top hole and fed into the tube running downwards, and the result was a large mass of black goop and grit coming from the base where the EGR valve sits. I mean TONS of crap.

After that was cleared out, I took a hard plastic weed-eater line and carefully pipe-snaked the tube that went the other direction toward the intake manifold... the reason being I didnt want to spray brakeleen into that side and force the grit and crap into my intake and engine. I fed the line in (with a little crook in the end to scrape up stuff), and after it went far enough in (no more resistance), I pulled it out slowly using a twisting motion. It took about 30 repetitions until the line came out without tons of black grit and goo..... the EGR tubing had been plugged up this whole time with this crap.

This has since FINALLY rid me of the EGR code 56.... as the temp sensor could not detect any temperatur change since there was no exhaust gasses flowing by it, since it was completely clogged. I would recommend anyone with a 56 code inspect the temp sensor porting, its almost assured it is clogged with crap after 11-17 years. This should be done, along with inspecting the flow through the vacuum lines to the EGR vacuum control, before blowing money on replacement parts. Hopefully this helps someone else out, because having an eternal MIL is a pain in the ace and ive noticed a lot of EGR related issues here.
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Old 09-01-2009, 04:18 PM
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Re: EGR temp sensor cleaned

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I thought id add my experience to this thread, since Ive seen a lot of Code 56 issues.

If your EGR temp sensor looks anything like the original posters, you can be assured the piping from the EGR valve to the sensor, and from the sensor to the intake tube to the manifold, look identical. After I removed my EGR valve, I sprayed Brakeleen, using the straw stuck into the top hole and fed into the tube running downwards, and the result was a large mass of black goop and grit coming from the base where the EGR valve sits. I mean TONS of crap.

After that was cleared out, I took a hard plastic weed-eater line and carefully pipe-snaked the tube that went the other direction toward the intake manifold... the reason being I didnt want to spray brakeleen into that side and force the grit and crap into my intake and engine. I fed the line in (with a little crook in the end to scrape up stuff), and after it went far enough in (no more resistance), I pulled it out slowly using a twisting motion. It took about 30 repetitions until the line came out without tons of black grit and goo..... the EGR tubing had been plugged up this whole time with this crap.

This has since FINALLY rid me of the EGR code 56.... as the temp sensor could not detect any temperatur change since there was no exhaust gasses flowing by it, since it was completely clogged. I would recommend anyone with a 56 code inspect the temp sensor porting, its almost assured it is clogged with crap after 11-17 years. This should be done, along with inspecting the flow through the vacuum lines to the EGR vacuum control, before blowing money on replacement parts. Hopefully this helps someone else out, because having an eternal MIL is a pain in the ace and ive noticed a lot of EGR related issues here.
Does the intake manifold need to be removed to do all this. By the way, my car is a 92 and doesn't have the EGR Temp Sensor in the picture.
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Old 09-01-2009, 04:56 PM
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Does the intake manifold need to be removed to do all this. By the way, my car is a 92 and doesn't have the EGR Temp Sensor in the picture.
Nope, just the black plastic intake ducting and the EGR valve itself. Mines a 92 also.... You dont have the sensor? Whats where the sensor goes in the pic?
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Nope, just the black plastic intake ducting and the EGR valve itself. Mines a 92 also.... You dont have the sensor? Whats where the sensor goes in the pic?
Looks the same but no wire, just a smooth bolt head. When I asked one of the SVX gurus about it, I was told that the early cars didn't have that sensor.
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Looks the same but no wire, just a smooth bolt head. When I asked one of the SVX gurus about it, I was told that the early cars didn't have that sensor.
Interesting, mine is California emissions though, maybe thats why I have the temp sensor. My code hasnt returned yet... I dont know that you even need to worry about it then, unless you have an emissions issue.
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Re: EGR temp sensor cleaned

Help...I have a 96 LSi...where is the temp sensor? Mine is not in the same location as pictured in this thread. Keep getting egr codes at 150 miles after reset. Egr vacuum is ok.
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Help...I have a 96 LSi...where is the temp sensor? Mine is not in the same location as pictured in this thread. Keep getting egr codes at 150 miles after reset. Egr vacuum is ok.
Yours may be at the EGR itself. If cleaning it doesnt help.... then the EGR passage should be cleaned out to restore EGR flow into the intake manifold. This requires removal of the manifold.
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