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Old 10-22-2007, 02:29 PM
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Question Snow Tire

I bought my car a few weeks ago and these were the tires trhat were on the car. So before the snow gets here I was wondering if anybody knows of these tires and if they will be good for the snow. Thanks.
WIDETRACK RADIAL H/R
235/45R17 93H
TREADWEAR 400
TRACTION A
TEMPERATURE A
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:50 PM
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Exclamation snow and ice

the only tires that stop on ice without studs is the QR rated Bridgestone Blizzaks.
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I bought my car a few weeks ago and these were the tires trhat were on the car. So before the snow gets here I was wondering if anybody knows of these tires and if they will be good for the snow. Thanks.
WIDETRACK RADIAL H/R
235/45R17 93H
TREADWEAR 400
TRACTION A
TEMPERATURE A
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:17 PM
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AHHH I beg to differ with you Porschekiller...NO TIRE regardless of traction rating will stop efficiently on ice. Snow, yes, but ice , NO. I don't care if you have car-width tires with an A+++ traction rating....tag the binders on ice & watch your car's braking distances quadruple. Here in the smokies we have ice, more than snow, TRUST ME, no amount of snow tire will help on ice.

For all your ranting about tires, I'd have guessed this simple bit of info would be sceond nature to you.
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Don't know that tire, but rule of thumb is narrower & taller tires for snow. Wide low profiles will have more of a tendency to ride up on top of the snow and lose traction rather than cut through it. A 205 or 215/55/16 or similar would be a good choice.
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Also, if it does not have the M&S on the sidewall, its not a rated snow tire.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:28 PM
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ice rink

i've seen the tests on an ice rink. 30 ft shorter than a regular snow tire. get with the times-multi-cell compound
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AHHH I beg to differ with you Porschekiller...NO TIRE regardless of traction rating will stop efficiently on ice. Snow, yes, but ice , NO. I don't care if you have car-width tires with an A+++ traction rating....tag the binders on ice & watch your car's braking distances quadruple. Here in the smokies we have ice, more than snow, TRUST ME, no amount of snow tire will help on ice.

For all your ranting about tires, I'd have guessed this simple bit of info would be sceond nature to you.
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i concur

but on a 17" wheel a 225 or 215/55-17 would be ideal because of the weight on the front.(think forester/outback)
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Don't know that tire, but rule of thumb is narrower & taller tires for snow. Wide low profiles will have more of a tendency to ride up on top of the snow and lose traction rather than cut through it. A 205 or 215/55/16 or similar would be a good choice.
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I bought my car a few weeks ago and these were the tires trhat were on the car. So before the snow gets here I was wondering if anybody knows of these tires and if they will be good for the snow. Thanks.
WIDETRACK RADIAL H/R
235/45R17 93H
TREADWEAR 400
TRACTION A
TEMPERATURE A
Thanks for all your ranting and raving about my post but you still havn't answered my question. I guess you never heard of this brand? Also I don't understang the meaning behind all those numbers and letters so I cannot figure out if it is a good tire or not.

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Also, if it does not have the M&S on the sidewall, its not a rated snow tire.

I am guessing where my tire says "H/R' it should say "M&S"?
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:55 PM
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Also, if it does not have the M&S on the sidewall, its not a rated snow tire.
The M+S simply means that the tire can work in mud and snow. A true winter tire, as tested and certified, has the mountain and snowflake symbol:

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i've seen the tests on an ice rink. 30 ft shorter than a regular snow tire. get with the times-multi-cell compound
Ice rink? Simply saying it stopped 30 ft shorter is not a complete answer. 30 ft shorter at what speed? Vehicle weight? If a car takes 600 feet to stop on sheer ice from 100 KPH, 30 feet is only a 5% decrease. Nothing to write home about.
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Thanks for all your ranting and raving about my post but you still havn't answered my question. I guess you never heard of this brand? Also I don't understang the meaning behind all those numbers and letters so I cannot figure out if it is a good tire or not.
Check out this page and the "Related Links"

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=33
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I bought my car a few weeks ago and these were the tires trhat were on the car. So before the snow gets here I was wondering if anybody knows of these tires and if they will be good for the snow. Thanks.
WIDETRACK RADIAL H/R
235/45R17 93H
TREADWEAR 400
TRACTION A
TEMPERATURE A
Back to the original question...WideTrack Radial H/R means nothing to me. 235/45/17 means it a low profile tire, wider than the average car's, for a 17 inch rim. 93H means it has more than enough load rating for the SVX and is rated for 210 KPH. Treadwear 400 is good, but not exceptional. Traction and temperature A ratings put it in the mid-performance range.

Without seeing a picture of the tread I'd say it's an all-season tire geared more toward summer performance. Any vehicle will benefit from having a set of snow tires in temperatures below 7 degrees C (40-ish F). Below this temperature the rubber compound of all seasons stiffens. Summer tires are rock hard and useless.

Get a picture of the tread and I can give you my opinion of it's winter usefulness.
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first of all widetrack isnt a brand and radial isnt a model, so until you can read a sidewall right then you'll reap what you sow.
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Thanks for all your ranting and raving about my post but you still havn't answered my question. I guess you never heard of this brand? Also I don't understang the meaning behind all those numbers and letters so I cannot figure out if it is a good tire or not.




I am guessing where my tire says "H/R' it should say "M&S"?
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the only tires that stop on ice without studs is the QR rated Bridgestone Blizzaks.
lol, be careful with "only"
there are plenty of other manufacturers who have figured out how to sipe a tire, and still none of them stop on ice better than studs and chains. Bridgestone makes a great tire, but I've seen testing video where they get out stopped and out-lasted.
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:21 PM
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first of all widetrack isnt a brand and radial isnt a model, so until you can read a sidewall right then you'll reap what you sow.
The tire is a firestone. Unfortunately it is old, I can't find a picture of the tread.

FIRESTONE RADIAL WIDETRACK H/R ALL A A 400
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