The most expensive cup of coffee ever

[NapaBavarian]

Originally Posted by gtdanielgt

Bitter about life perhaps?

I'm feeling rather bitter about life right now how come you didn't include me

[Royal Tiger]

Originally Posted by gtdanielgt

Are you always such a bright ray of sunshine? In EVERY single post I see of yours, you have nothing positive to say about anything... Bitter about life perhaps?

Careful FNG, he was being sarcastic. You have to get to know him a little better.

I hate hit and runs. Did he know it at the time? I doubt a tractor trailer felt hitting the bike. Did you see his face in the mirror, or was it gone already? Good luck.

[Royal Tiger]

Hey, where are the vintage Porsche photos??????

[gtdanielgt]

Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

Careful FNG, he was being sarcastic. You have to get to know him a little better.

I hate hit and runs. Did he know it at the time? I doubt a tractor trailer felt hitting the bike. Did you see his face in the mirror, or was it gone already? Good luck.

FNG! Wow...i thought that was a term we just used here in the office!
Appreciate your thoughts...

[AutoTchr]

The guy really did not know that he hit anything. I talked to the driver today. He says that the owner of the coffee shop should pay because he put the bike rack in middle of the road. Who in their right mind would put a bike rack in middle of the road, and who in their right mind would park their bike in a bike rack in middle of the road!!

Doesnt matter. I have claim started with their insurance company. I will know more on monday.

[Royal Tiger]

Originally Posted by gtdanielgt

FNG! Wow...i thought that was a term we just used here in the office!
Appreciate your thoughts...

No problem. Welcome aboard.

As for the bike rack, I looked at the pictures and it looks like the rear wheels stayed in the street. Do you have any shots from further back showing the whole intersection?

[AutoTchr]

Originally Posted by Royal Tiger

No problem. Welcome aboard.

As for the bike rack, I looked at the pictures and it looks like the rear wheels stayed in the street. Do you have any shots from further back showing the whole intersection?

I am waiting for more photos that another cyclist took. The road is the darker part of the asphalt that looks like it was sealed. The section that the bike rack was in is where people parallel park cars. Regardless, what if it would have been a kid sitting on the curb eating an ice cream?

The shop owner said that the red hand railing has been hit numerous times even though there is plenty of room to negotiate the corner.

There is almost no traffic in this sleepy town...........he could have used the other lane and made a wider turn.

[Royal Tiger]

That wasn't the point. The bike rack should not be placed in the street, or what is actually refered to as the Traffic way, which extends to the sides of the lane of traffic past the shoulder or berm. And before someone starts crying, I did accident reconstruction before I got promoted to patrol supervisor. A bicycle is not a land vehicle, but a pedestrain convayence, allowed to use the traffic way, but not afforded some of the land vehicle propritary rights of way. I can't speak for Oregon, but a bike rack must be placed clear of the traffic way and on a sidewalk or private property. A bike may not be parked as a vehilce on a shoulder of a laned road or street. It doesn't forgive the truck driver for leaving, if he knew he hit it, but you may have a case against the shop owner. Look into your local regulations. Good luck.

[NapaBavarian]

Regarding the bicycle not being a Land Vehicle, this may be a state to state issue, in CA bicycles are generally considered to be vehicles in the law, ride with traffic VS walk against traffic, do not use cross walks, no right of way if ridden through a cross walk, but pedestrian right of way if walked through a cross walk, must stop at stop signs, not to be ridden on sidewalks, there is more, but that gives you the general idea. As for parking bicycles on the street I'm not sure how the law is written.

[Royal Tiger]

Kind of Karl. Bicycles must be ridden with the traffic, not against it. They must also be equipped with lights when ridden at night. They can't run red lights or stop signs. But they can't be parked like a car or motorcycle. That is the difference in land vehicle vs pedestrian convayence. There are more, but I was summerizing.

[AutoTchr]

The bike rack was where the cars are parked. Regardless of where the bike was parked the driver ran over the bike proving that he was incompetant, impaired or not paying attention.

Who cares if the bike got ran over. It could have been a kid on the curb. You don't see that? The trucker was driving where no one should be driving. Here is a picture showing that this is a parking area.

[AutoTchr]

Is a traffic way and parking lot one in the same?

[Royal Tiger]

Thanks for the nice shot of the 356's parked in a row.

A traffic way is the total width of the street, including shoulders and berms, and usually also 6 feet past that. A bicycle may not be parked on the shoulder like a car or motorcycle. A parking lot is off the traffic way, but open to through traffic and therefore some vehicle regulations pertain to actions on private lots. A land vehicle may use any or all of a traffic way, so long as it doesn't cross into oncoming traffic lanes or cause property damage. If the rear axle of the trailer stayed inside the curb line, I think you have and issue with the shop owner for having you park a passenger convaynce within the traffic way. But all my experience is in PA. Check your local laws.

[Earthworm]

So who's fault would it be if one of those Porsche's got flattened by that truck?

[oab_au]

Lost your bike, but at least you weren't on it at the time.


Harvey.