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Old 09-27-2008, 10:12 PM
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I'm cool with that, though I don't think it's fair to insinuate that I somehow brought you back here and made you post, but then again if you believe I have interpreted you incorrectly it is your right (duty, in my mind) to correct me.

The Bullwinkle picture gave me the impression you thought I was somehow an air headed buffoon.

I can understand why a majority feel women are especially complex, but I view both men and women as biology. They want kids, food, sex, cool stuff, fun experiences, whatever, with a few exceptions to every rule. Everyone has a need and every need has a fix. Successful socialism is a simple matter of fixing the needs.
Using this ideology it should not be hard to understand why I only have enemies on the internet, where I am unable to please others.
I hope you understand my position, seeing people as bundles of nerves and organs requiring and reacting to stimulus.

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Old 09-27-2008, 10:25 PM
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I can understand why a majority feel women are especially complex, but I view both men and women as biology. They want kids, food, sex, cool stuff, fun experiences, whatever, with a few exceptions to every rule. Everyone has a need and every need has a fix. Successful socialism is a simple matter of fixing the needs.
Using this ideology it should not be hard to understand why I only have enemies on the internet, where I am unable to please others.
I hope you understand my position, seeing people as bundles of nerves and organs requiring and reacting to stimulus.
This is the source of most of your problems. You are seeking knowledge through an analogy that references social science and biology. Instead try looking at it through your past experiences with the opposite, or same sex, depending on your preference. I personally see your opinion as false and incorrect. There are too many variables to pin down with general concepts and ideas. What you have said here is actually VERY general and in that, lacks realism. Once you get past the bare physical needs and wants you will see there are mental factors that are used to obtain these needs and wants. Men and women have a variety of methods to ascertain these and it is a man who is questioning a women's motives in the case of this thread. It has a lot more to do with psychology than biology.

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Old 09-27-2008, 10:30 PM
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Hetero, fyi.

Well I do handle each person on an individual basis. I try to learn the needs of every person I meet, whom I am interested in maintaining a relationship with, romantic or otherwise. (Contrary to that I practically ignore everyone else, so yes, 1 point for you)
So far I have been quite successful, if not unfulfilled in my own desires.

I don't have flowcharts or graphs that I use to analyze a spectrum of people, I get to know people very well, but my quirk is I have a very binary view of these people. Option 1, on or off. Option 2, on or off. It works for me.
The only problem is if a person does not engage me, I can't really learn anything, but that is not usually a problem as I am very approachable and ALWAYS nice. (:

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Old 09-27-2008, 10:52 PM
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I'm cool with that, though I don't think it's fair to insinuate that I somehow brought you back here and made you post, but then again if you believe I have interpreted you incorrectly it is your right (duty, in my mind) to correct me.
Ok, so, it is fair or isn't it? You feel it is his duty but he cannot insinuate to that affect?

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The only person I would guess has gotten feathers ruffled is iizbeastie, but I am also under the impression this user is female.
If you are not, before you get offended, your anatomy is not listed and you come across with an effeminate posting style.
No feathers ruffled here, I'm quite cool as you are.
-side note- feathers ruffled is a term derived from a birds ruffling it's feathers to ventilate air through the protective feathers to the skin in order to cool them off.... i.e. they are warm... thought you may enjoy that tidbit in your desire to know about everything.... in your quest, I recommend the series of books, "uncle johns bathroom reader" a collection of useless yet interesting information and fun facts written in seemingly no logical order that is intended to be used upon the throne (can).

By the way I'm curious as to where you get the effeminate posting style? "beast" is the old high school football nickname that evolved into beastie somehow... the iiz (i iz as in "I is") was later added as the profile name "beastie" was already taken..... may we also note that yes, females are capable of playing football, though lets face facts, its quite rare.

And please.... don't call me a 'user' as I haven't smoked anything in years
yeah, I had to, it was the first thought as I read it.....

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I disagree with your point, as I feel it is wrong. Are you troubled with my opinion that this thread is based on the premise that one sex is somehow superior to the other? Am I supposed to subdue my opinion as not to oppose the ego-stroking of females?
Am I somehow inexperienced with women because I choose to treat them as I would treat a man? (That is with equality in every respect. In before any predictable sexual connotations. Looking at you, Alan.)

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I must note that things are rarely "wrong", though we are taught 'right and wrong' there are few things that are. Everything is entirely circumstantial and typically there are several levels between right and wrong based on information provided combined with interpretation.

Moving on, I am not troubled by any of your stated viewpoints other that my failure to see where you derived a notion of superiority from statements of 'mysterious' ect... I didn't take note at all of such premise, nor anything about "ego stroking".

Treating women equally to all and all the same is respectable in my perspective. This would actually seem to be the action of a more experienced individual especially since it is often the result of a proffessional working environment.

As far as my other comments are concerned, you cannot deny that you consistently insist on the last word. Further, you won't deny it as you have already pledged this as your belief (not to be confused with faith... I would guess agnostic in your case). I understand this can be considered defending ones self or stating disagreement and perhaps even a few other terms but 'last word' is typical of the same notions. It also comes off as very antagonistic which most view as childish. How things are interpreted is the main source of most belief as well as reaction, we have seen that in the last few posts....
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This is the source of most of your problems. You are seeking knowledge through an analogy that references social science and biology. Instead try looking at it through your past experiences with the opposite, or same sex, depending on your preference. I personally see your opinion as false and incorrect. There are too many variables to pin down with general concepts and ideas. What you have said here is actually VERY general and in that, lacks realism. Once you get past the bare physical needs and wants you will see there are mental factors that are used to obtain these needs and wants. Men and women have a variety of methods to ascertain these and it is a man who is questioning a women's motives in the case of this thread. It has a lot more to do with psychology than biology.

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Well said Tom, well said.
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Old 09-27-2008, 11:01 PM
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If I could find a woman like THIS

OR THIS

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Old 09-27-2008, 11:13 PM
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Ok, so, it is fair or isn't it? You feel it is his duty but he cannot insinuate to that affect?
In all fairness, only he can bring himself to any place. This is a fact unless he is kidnapped. To state that it is necessary is fine, but to say it as if he had no choice, that is false. I tend to run along very fine lines.
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Fascinating. I thought, depending on species, it had to do with merely appearing larger to sequester (*check dictionary.com*... yeah that works. sometimes I think of words to which I don't even know the meaning, but I always look them up.) a mate.

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By the way I'm curious as to where you get the effeminate posting style? "beast" is the old high school football nickname that evolved into beastie somehow... the iiz (i iz as in "I is") was later added as the profile name "beastie" was already taken..... may we also note that yes, females are capable of playing football, though lets face facts, its quite rare.
You just come across that way. It's the sentence structure. I figured beastie was referring to the car. Women usually gives cars masculine names.

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I must note that things are rarely "wrong", though we are taught 'right and wrong' there are few things that are. Everything is entirely circumstantial and typically there are several levels between right and wrong based on information provided combined with interpretation.
While I agree completely I base what I feel is right and wrong on my perspective of the world. What is wrong to me is simply wrong, but I also see that what is wrong for others is simply wrong to them, and I accept it despite disagreement.

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Moving on, I am not troubled by any of your stated viewpoints other that my failure to see where you derived a notion of superiority from statements of 'mysterious' ect... I didn't take note at all of such premise, nor anything about "ego stroking".
That came a little later. My initial beef was based around a lot of poeple basically saying "you'll understand when ..." as if there was something I do not understand, yet no one can quantify this "something".

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Treating women equally to all and all the same is respectable in my perspective. This would actually seem to be the action of a more experienced individual especially since it is often the result of a proffessional working environment.
It's just the way I've always been. I do have sort of a unique take on this, but that is discussion not fit for this forum, so there will be gaps in my personality that won't be filled here.

Unless shelfy spills the beans.
Lol don't do it.
Just nod and agree.
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As far as my other comments are concerned, you cannot deny that you consistently insist on the last word. Further, you won't deny it as you have already pledged this as your belief (not to be confused with faith... I would guess agnostic in your case).
I can and I will!

I'll give you a second to think of how.






I do not insist on the last word, I insist on prolonging discussion as long as possible. Having the "last" word would imply I want discussion to end, but and end would mean there is less stimulus for me to acquire. I prefer prolonged engagement.

Nice choice of avatar, by the way. You may have noticed by now I am nothing like the character in mine.
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demonsvx, You want to date a chic who has lordosis?

<on soapbox speaking generally>
In all seriousness...this thread has gotten way WAY out in left field. Reading through this craziness, all I see is grown men trying to defend their penises (can I say that) and why? A majority of people here don't really care how many men/women/children/household pets you've banged. I sure as heck don't wake up in the morning wondering how big (or small) your junk is...I don't dwell on how many grooves or lack there of are in your headboard. Who gives a rat's rectum..so please just deflate the egos and lets fight nice.

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I have learned in my 23 years, that there is no point in trying too hard. Do what you do, and eventually you will find someone that can work with you.

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That's basically what I've come up with as well Tom. Only it's taken me 20 years to figure it out.
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Fascinating. I thought, depending on species, it had to do with merely appearing larger to sequester (*check dictionary.com*... yeah that works. sometimes I think of words to which I don't even know the meaning, but I always look them up.) a mate.
You are correct, but it is a secondary function....

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You just come across that way. It's the sentence structure. I figured beastie was referring to the car. Women usually gives cars masculine names.
Failing to see the sentence structure part of this but fair enough on the car.... And yeah men stick to feminine naming, Actually the two I have remain nameless because well, I don't like my women fast, but my cars are


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While I agree completely I base what I feel is right and wrong on my perspective of the world. What is wrong to me is simply wrong, but I also see that what is wrong for others is simply wrong to them, and I accept it despite disagreement.


That came a little later. My initial beef was based around a lot of poeple basically saying "you'll understand when ..." as if there was something I do not understand, yet no one can quantify this "something".
I see these actually run together. My experiences in life have shown me that not only are there several levels of right and wrong, there are just as many levels of understanding. Take it or leave it, I see it as a fact.

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It's just the way I've always been. I do have sort of a unique take on this, but that is discussion not fit for this forum, so there will be gaps in my personality that won't be filled here.
I guess all I can really say to that is 'ditto'. though I have to admit it almost feels as though I'm having a conversation with myself here.....

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I do not insist on the last word, I insist on prolonging discussion as long as possible. Having the "last" word would imply I want discussion to end, but and end would mean there is less stimulus for me to acquire. I prefer prolonged engagement.
wow, seriously, I'm laughing so hard on that one I'm surprised I can type....

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Nice choice of avatar, by the way. You may have noticed by now I am nothing like the character in mine.
yeah, couldn't help myself..... It felt necessary..
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Old 09-27-2008, 11:45 PM
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I am trying get over why I had hated women over the past few months due to going thru a divorce. I had a general feeling that all women are like this but it is not the case because of the hurt feelings of seperation. I rediscovered myself and the APPRECIATION of the female species in respect that they are not like my ex. I also have gotten on better terms with my ex because we are not arguing all the time over petty things. As for the pictures posted earlier this is what I LIKE AS A MAN and Im sure you have yours. It isnt intended to be offensive to anyone but women like to be told they are sexy beautiful etc. It is what you want out of a relationship and essentially finding someone who matches you. 6 billion+ people in the world your match(s) are out there and this is my opinion on the matter.
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Holy SMOKES what did I do? This thread is gettin crazy.


I guess everyone has an opinion.


Notice, it's 4AM as I post this, I'm back from the club/bar/house/car party and I DID not get LAID. Had epic fun though. I'm digging this single thing.

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I guess everyone has an opinion.
Perhaps.



Or perhaps it is an opinion that has everyone...


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LOL... even the subject of women makes men argue without control LOL....
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If I could find a woman like THIS

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She'd have you wherever she wanted(not in a good way), you'd better start working out and earning seven figures
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