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O/T SIA Plant
Well it seems that Isuzu's troubles continue. In this week's Craine Auto news there's an article about the Isuzu and Subaru plant and Isuzu's American future. Things look very bad. Apparently the new 2003 model manufacture date has been pushed back to the end of Nov (from July) with Isuzu promising that vehicles will be made there in 2003. Currently there are talks going on between Subaru, Isuzu and GM concerning the future of Isuzu in the Sport Ute business. GM has already stated that Isuzu should get out of the Sport Ute business. Possible future uses for the plant include Subaru buying Isuzus 49% to work on a joint GM and Sub 7 pass. tall wagon. Problem with this is GM is balking b/c of Subaru's stuborness to go away from the boxer designed motor . What should they go back to a pushrod designed boxer?
The article goes on to say that the factory is expected to produce even less vehicles in 2003. Around 160,000 from a high of 200,000+ in 99.
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That is very sad. Someone needs to tell them to start prodcing the SVX again, and do it there! WHEEEE.
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Actually... Isuzu is just giving up their stake in the plant to FHI. The only thing it means is that they won't reap any profits from that. Instead FHI will make the trucks for Isuzu and isuzu will just re-sell them. GM has killed the Isuzu truck market by neutering them on advertising and pricing and content. Isuzu's core business is Diesel Engines (Med-duty trucks and Duramax Engines in the 2500 series GM trucks) SUVs only made up a small portion of their business. It's a shame cause they are nearly indestructable SUVs.
One theory is that FHI will buy GM's stake in Isuzu and will basically incorporate Isuzu trucks into their lineup as Subarus, this would make Subazu a "full-line" manufacturer. -mike |
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If an SVX cost $36,000 in 1997, imagine what a new 2004 model would run. I don't think I could afford one.
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SVX again
Well maybe they will produce it again. I'm sure Subaru will be watching the sales #s of the 350z and the RX8 in the near future. Then just as the market starts dying again they'll come out with the new "SVX". I'm sure it will rely on an existing platform, use the 3.0 H-6 and not be so unique but it will still be 3 years too late to the market to be a big money maker. Subaru has had a way of doing that for the past 15 years or so. Remember the $$$ is in the expensive vehicles. I'm sure the profits for 1 H-6 Outback is 5-10 times what it is for a Legacy L wagon. Why do you think you only see ads for the most expensive vehicles on TV?
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Hmm out of the 200-500 Isuzu owners I know only a few have problems of valve tap, and that is on 200K+ models.
I have had 2, a 97 rodeo that went 120K before I traded it in on an '00 Trooper. So far 45K no problems. GM has had a significant financial stake of Isuzu since the mid-80s. Consumer Reports false rollover article didn't help either. -mike |
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Yes GM has had a 25% stake in Isuzu since the 80s. In the past 5 years they've nearly doubled that and are the majority owner in Isuzus diesel ventures. I wouldn't call the rollover article false... they just forgot to say that all the other manufacturer's SUVs have a greater tendency to roll than a car. I guess they were afraid of being sued by the big boys. Isuzu and Suzuki can't afford to fight like Ford, Chevy and Chrylser can. It just kills their reputation too quickly.
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Hope springs eternal
The new ad for the Baja shows the Brat twice.
I just had a daydream of a new SVX with our beauties in the background.... Don
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Variable torque distribution AWD.
Mike |
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If the VTD goes haywire , it becomes a
Vicarious Thrill Device
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