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Back in the day someone did some fancy photography of the rear of the car measuring the difference between the height of the rear at speed versus standing still.
If I remember correctly, they calculated something like 100 lbs of downforce at 100mph which is significant. Plus I agree that it just doesn't look as good without the spoiler.
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I love ideas but life is better when things can be linked to facts, reason, logic... Thanks for your time and response to this matter.
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http://www.subaru-svx.net/forum/show...ight=downforce
Post #14. It's still debatable, but I guess we'll never know until someone does some proper testing.
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If you think you need downforce, throw your tools into the trunk, or better yet, keep your gas tank full. dcb |
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Just remember that the SVX that achived the best drag coifiecent had a spoiler. I have moved mine back about 2". tha car is very stable at very high speeds. If I post it the Mods will ban me.
My spolier moved back. Steve
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I think I like it better than the stock spot and would solve the issue of trying to ffill in the holes in the trunk lid. Now I just need to fix all the patches of paint that are falling off.
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Anyway I was just going for more of a actual experience an not a sudo-scientific topic as I doubt anyone here has any real numbers to crunch on this topic. edit: just took a look at the sppoiiler and it looks to have little if any airfoil shape to it, but I am no expert. So maybe it is mostly for looks, but as others have sugested.........
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That is the opinion...
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One other marginal value would be the way it works as a body builder if you have to open the trunk often with week trunk struts. Keith |
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Seems to me a wingless SVX is aerodynamically cleaner than one with a wing. I'm not an expert and can cite no references, but by definition anything that "spoils" the airflow, well, spoils the airflow. Any wing of any description on any street car is essentially a "sporty" tack-on. dcb |
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A few years ago when this came up, someone (Chike???) mentioned the idea of using a digital scale with a remote readout. Setting the scale in the trunk, then using blocks to hold the trunk just barely open with the weight on the scale. Then go for a drive and monitor the scale.
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I added a stock spoiler to mine, but I like how the bobtails look.
IMO spoiler = looks like sports car bobtail = looks like luxury car I dont like the xtra big tail look
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A slightly open trunk would alter airflow, and would certainly bounce around. I don't think you'd be able to get any sort of consistent readings.
The purpose of a wing in back is to help plant the rear tires; the more severe the angle, the more downforce. But the penalty is drag. Any race car will run faster without a wing up until the point that the rear wheels begin to lose traction. Not many of us need worry about going fast enough for any of this to matter. Overdrive the car and you can certainly lose the back end in a curve at street legal speeds, but at those speeds our little decorative wing doesn't make one bit of difference. An enormous, steeply raked World of Outlaws wing might. But probably not. dcb |
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Someone care to open up their R&T guide? Mine is packed away.
I remember reading, *somehere* that the wing/spoiler is indeed, functional.
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