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It obviously doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that as of right now, today, or even tomorrow, we DON'T have a viable alternative fuel for powering our vehicles. Any idiot also knows that ethanol from food sources is also NOT an answer.
My comments were obviously based on future developments and production. There are MANY sources for making biodiesel AND these WILL happen, so future vehicles powered by diesel/biodiesel ARE a viable replacement for our current power systems. Battery powered alternatives are NOT practical for much of our driving and the full impact of their environmental problems are as yet to be determined. Lee PS: This is a pretty good local application of technology to power quite a few vehicles now. http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007...ran_tilapi.php
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site your sources, don't take it so personally ben, just show me a creditable source that says that and site where the figure came from thats all i ask.
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If you look back at my posts years ago regarding e-85 I took a ton of heat for calling it just as it has proven to be, nothing more than a smoke screen so idiots in Washington can say they're working towards solutions. In fact, for the 95% of cars that don't use e-85 the amount of eth. in their gas has actually gone down from a high near 8 percent to as low as 5 percent. Wouldn't it have been more prudent for GM to waste their retirement pentions on something else rather than retooling for e-85?
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You calling GW a village idiot now?
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and on a side note i agree that e-85 is a joke. but i think diesels are the future.
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There is a place to ask questions. Then again, if you're too lazy to pick up a book and do math then I guess asking would be too tough. I gave you the methods anyone with a 2nd grade education could use to calculate it. Are you saying that was too tough or are you simply too lazy to educate yourself on subjects that are vital to your future. Go buy yourself a diesel if you want. It isn't the end all savior and even with running veggie oil is quite bad for the health of the young and old. Just ask any doctor about how many deaths each year have diesel fumes as a contributing factor. BTW: This friend just happens to be a Chemistry Prof who spent the summer teaching seminars on the subject in India, so yes, I'd say that a Dutch tree hugger who says it ain't gonna work is someone I'd trust (when we all know that she would love to see it work large scale). She worked at Greasecar while pursuing her undergrad, masters and phd. I'd trust her analysis on the subject. Pick up a calculator and do the math.
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svxfiles is working on a automobile propulsion system powered by processed taco and beer fumes.
true story.
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I thought he was already recycling beer fumes so he could get a contact buzz.
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The ford won't be here likely due to red tape in the US, that isn't in Europe. Hybrids are neat in theory, but have no long term value. The SVX is ~15 years old, and still competes with modern automobiles. I'd love to see a hybrid that is 15 years old. "Oops, time to replace the battery for $3000 on my car that is worth $2000." No thanks. Modern cars are not being built for the long haul, and it seems very unlikely they will live past the 15 year mark, where-as there's currently dozens of types of cars that are on the road that age or older.
All they need to do is figure out cold fusion, and all of our cars will get 200,000,000mpg, craft them from titanium and they'll last forever, and we won't need new cars for 300+ years.
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i heard a rumor, that it may come with a genuine glass windshield.
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There are and always have been viable options for high fuel economy gasoline engines. The problem is what landshark said. This whole damn country is obsessed cars. They are a status symbols here. We all want our big cars with big engines. Now that gas prices have got so high its a crisis.
This is from Wikipedia Honda CR-X HF (High Fuel economy) model could reliably achieve very good gas mileage, more than a decade before gas-electric hybrids appeared on the market, and at no price premium over the base model; the 1.3 liter was rated (at current ratings) at 41 mpg city and 50 mpg highway. Last edited by Ownbot; 09-26-2008 at 08:17 PM. |
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There are 640 acres in a square mile, the US consumes a little more than 9 million barrels of oil in a day, there are 365.25 days in a year. Average yield for an acre of easily grown US products in terms of usable oil is going to be about 30 gallons per acre annually once you factor into the equation drought, floods, 25% fallow lands. Roughly 700,000 square miles are used for crops in the US. All you need to do is do the math and you'll have the number of acres needed to product enough diesel to meet current demand. The information is readily available, I just didn't feel the need to feed you with a silver spoon. I don't feed my 3 year old either You're a big boy aren't you?
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SHHhhhH!!!! You'll give away the secret! I'll just state, that most technology we dream about, has existed for a long period of time. The problem is, if we made things that efficient, you'll put yourself out of business. There are a lot of systems that are built flawed to keep returning customers, that's just a basic tool of economics.
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