Weight reduction thread

[vagabond]

wrx 5 speed.

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Thats what the PO told me.

Just hot the trans code. Its a 02 Forester 5 speed with 4.11.

[NikFu S.]

Originally Posted by jetboy

Uuuh Nikfu's tuning sounds like more bang for the buck to be honest

I've also removed the A/C, muffler, and have a light battery and wheels. When i take the passenger seat out I'm down something like 95-100lbs from stock.

I don't remember the 5mt/4spd difference, but with a fiberglass hood i should be down at least 120. Mind you some mods add weight, like sway bars, LGT gears, high performance wide tires...

[1986nate]

Originally Posted by NikFu S.

I don't remember the 5mt/4spd difference, but with a fiberglass hood i should be down at least 120. Mind you some mods add weight, like sway bars, LGT gears, high performance wide tires...

5 spd weighs in a 125# plus weight of clutch, pressure plate and flywheel. phase 1 4eat weighs in at 250 lbs. Remember though, this is low end weight and will raise the center of gravity on the car.

[benebob]

Originally Posted by 1986nate

5 spd weighs in a 125# plus weight of clutch, pressure plate and flywheel. phase 1 4eat weighs in at 250 lbs. Remember though, this is low end weight and will raise the center of gravity on the car.

Not to mention it'll push that weight distribution forward and rearward even more than it is already.

[NikFu S.]

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[NikFu S.]

Which only positively affects acceleration, and only negatively effects body roll and MAYBE understeer.
the weight distribution may be slightly disturbed but i don't believe it should count as a negative.

[benebob]

Originally Posted by NikFu S.

Which only positively affects acceleration, and only negatively effects body roll and MAYBE understeer.
the weight distribution may be slightly disturbed but i don't believe it should count as a negative.

Sory there is no MAYBE in yes it does. Coming from one of the builders of ther lightest SVXs ever I'd say I'm quite versed in the subject. Only counts as a negative if you drive anywhere but a 1/4 mile strip and the sad reality is even with a 800lbs weight loss you'd still be loosing to a stock civic in a drag race.

[icingdeath88]

Originally Posted by benebob

Sory there is no MAYBE in yes it does. Coming from one of the builders of ther lightest SVXs ever I'd say I'm quite versed in the subject. Only counts as a negative if you drive anywhere but a 1/4 mile strip and the sad reality is even with a 800lbs weight loss you'd still be loosing to a stock civic in a drag race.

So what would you do differently? Let's say you had an SVX with a motor with as much power as you ask for. Where would you go from there?

[NikFu S.]

Originally Posted by benebob

Sory there is no MAYBE in yes it does. Coming from one of the builders of ther lightest SVXs ever I'd say I'm quite versed in the subject. Only counts as a negative if you drive anywhere but a 1/4 mile strip and the sad reality is even with a 800lbs weight loss you'd still be loosing to a stock civic in a drag race.

My take on it is it ONLY counts as a negative if you need to sling the car around an autocross course, which we may agree is a futile effort to begin with. In every other scenario that point will not apply, but i dare say having a lighter car in general is a plus in all cases, especially daily driving and drag racing.

Honestly, with the MT i have no trouble at all with understeer. in fact i get gratuitous overtseer in situations where i apply power into a corner just because of the power distribution, with the exception of autocross.

[1986nate]

Originally Posted by NikFu S.

My take on it is it ONLY counts as a negative if you need to sling the car around an autocross course, which we may agree is a futile effort to begin with. In every other scenario that point will not apply, but i dare say having a lighter car in general is a plus in all cases, especially daily driving and drag racing.

Honestly, with the MT i have no trouble at all with understeer. in fact i get gratuitous overtseer in situations where i apply power into a corner just because of the power distribution, with the exception of autocross.

Higher COG is still a negative, no matter how you look at it. The weight savings and not having the parasitic loss of an auto are positives.
When you choose whether or not to do something, you weigh out the positives vs negatives. So, yes, higher center of gravity is still a negative but it is greatly outweighed in almost every other aspect by the positives gained by doing a manual swap.

[benebob]

Originally Posted by NikFu S.

My take on it is it ONLY counts as a negative if you need to sling the car around an autocross course, which we may agree is a futile effort to begin with. In every other scenario that point will not apply, but i dare say having a lighter car in general is a plus in all cases, especially daily driving and drag racing.

Honestly, with the MT i have no trouble at all with understeer. in fact i get gratuitous overtseer in situations where i apply power into a corner just because of the power distribution, with the exception of autocross.

Oversteer in a SVX. That's the funniest thing I heard in months. No wait, your serious... its the funniest thing I've heard in years. There is nothing futile about autoxing anything. Now drag racing an SVX in anything but a bracket race then you're talking futile.

[benebob]

Originally Posted by icingdeath88

So what would you do differently? Let's say you had an SVX with a motor with as much power as you ask for. Where would you go from there?

Sell it and buy something with a community which supported it. The car is plenty capable of holding its own in the right racing circuits.

[icingdeath88]

Originally Posted by benebob

Sell it and buy something with a community which supported it. The car is plenty capable of holding its own in the right racing circuits.

Of all the possible answers you could have given, this was by far the least helpful.

[benebob]

Originally Posted by icingdeath88

Of all the possible answers you could have given, this was by far the least helpful.

Yeah, truth hurts and it is very helpful it can save boat loads of money.

[NikFu S.]

Originally Posted by 1986nate

Higher COG is still a negative, no matter how you look at it. The weight savings and not having the parasitic loss of an auto are positives.
When you choose whether or not to do something, you weigh out the positives vs negatives. So, yes, higher center of gravity is still a negative but it is greatly outweighed in almost every other aspect by the positives gained by doing a manual swap.

I think it's more subjective than that, but you are stating your opinion more elegantly than I mine. A higher COG is certainly a negative for some people, but for many it is not even worth consideration.

Ben, I will be happy to demonstrate power oversteer in the SVX for you. I am also acknowledging the understeer that is all too common in our SVXing lives. My car still has it.