Forester XT

[Chiketkd]

Originally Posted by Landshark

i got mine for $25k with upgraded alarm sys, armrest extension, dimming compass mirror, winter mats, spoiler, body-colored door mouldings, and 5EAT Sportshift. i didn't want the Limited for the added weight of the sunroof (never use it in the SVX), and power leather seats. with the wife probably driving it more (she hated the stebro'd SVX, and complained about the visibility ), its a lot quicker to adjust the seats manually.

I was comparing the prices on top of the line models. I can get a base FXT for under 22K at dealers in Northern VA. The FXT still runs 3-4K cheaper than the LGT. The LGT is designed to be more luxurious and upscale...

Originally Posted by Landshark

LGT 5EAT - 3365lbs
FXT manual - 3225lbs

Both Car & Driver and Road & Track got curb weights in the low 3400lb range for the 5MT version of the 2.5GT. The FXT 5sp does come in at ~3200lbs which is less than the STI...

-Chike

[shelfy]

Originally Posted by Landshark

i didn't want the Limited for the added weight of the sunroof (never use it in the SVX), and power leather seats.

what's another 70 pounds among friends?

[shelfy]

Originally Posted by Chiketkd

I was comparing the prices on top of the line models. I can get a base FXT for under 22K at dealers in Northern VA. The FXT still runs 3-4K cheaper than the LGT. The LGT is designed to be more luxurious and upscale...

msrp base price for fxt premium is 27,395 compared to 28,595 for lgt limited. that's only 1200 shekels. both models sell for almost msrp in colorado.

[Chiketkd]

Originally Posted by shelfy

msrp base price for fxt premium is 27,395 compared to 28,595 for lgt limited. that's only 1200 shekels. both models sell for almost msrp in colorado.

Foresters don't sell as well - so Subaru offers more rebates on that model (including FXT). They currently have a $2,000 rebate special. Most dealers on the East coast knock off ~$1,500 from MSRP and the rebate is added onto that.

Most rebates on the Legacy are for the 2.5i models...

-Chike

[Chiketkd]

ADAMnQuickFORESTER has the following sig:

Silver 2004 Forester 2.5XT Manual
05 STi VF39 Turbo
04 STi ECU
05 STi up-pipe
Otherwise, 100% stock.

He went:



-Chike

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by shelfy

what's another 70 pounds among friends?

more like, what's another $2500 among friends?

$2500 = Cobb stage2.5, painted sport grille replica, and painted side spats.

[shelfy]

Originally Posted by Chiketkd

Foresters don't sell as well - so Subaru offers more rebates on that model (including FXT). They currently have a $2,000 rebate special. Most dealers on the East coast knock off ~$1,500 from MSRP and the rebate is added onto that.

Most rebates on the Legacy are for the 2.5i models...

every other car i see is an fxt. but there are an amazing number of all subarus here.

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by shelfy

every other car i see is an fxt. but there are an amazing number of all subarus here.

ton of FXT's here......and all the other ones, SVX's included.

[shelfy]

Originally Posted by Landshark

ton of FXT's here......and all the other ones, SVX's included.

i thought you would say that. i was reading drive magaizine one day and there are more "stellar performer" dealers in pa than in co, but it's close. you do have us hands down in SVXs though.

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by shelfy

i thought you would say that. i was reading drive magaizine one day and there are more "stellar performer" dealers in pa than in co, but it's close. you do have us hands down in SVXs though.

some of them aren't that "stellar".

[shelfy]

Originally Posted by Landshark

some of them aren't that "stellar".

i could say the same here. i've been pretty pleased with the dealer i bought both legacys and teh forester from. but unless the dealership i bought the svx from had another one with only 8024 miles on it, i wouldn't piss on it, if it were on fire.

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by shelfy

i could say the same here. i've been pretty pleased with the dealer i bought both legacys and teh forester from. but unless the dealership i bought the svx from had another one with only 8024 miles on it, i wouldn't piss on it, if it were on fire.

the dealer i bought our WRX from, and was 10-15 minutes away, on my way to work, and not far from the subway line, moved across town.

[shelfy]

Originally Posted by Landshark

the dealer i bought our WRX from, and was 10-15 minutes away, on my way to work, and not far from the subway line, moved across town.

my dealer isn't he closest, but it is on the way to work. plus i think my service advisor has the hots for me and gives me lots of dealership schwag. after posting this, i sure he hope he doesn't lurk on our forum.

[Chiketkd]

Originally Posted by Landshark

Legacy GT stage2 : Combine the revolutionary AccessPORT, the Perrin catless downpipe, catless up-pipe of your choice and experience 0-60 in about 4.7 seconds while running stage 2 map. Up-pipe adds quicker turbo spool times at lower RPM, while the downpipe offers improvement in the midrange and high RPM horsepower and torque curve. $1159 - $1189, depending on up-pipe.

Originally Posted by Landshark

FXT Cobb Stage 2 Power Package (280 HP) torque not given?

LGT Cobb Stage 2 Power Package (305 HP / 345 lb-ft)

heh heh heh....

FXT got the 4.44 gearing, so its probably about equal anyways as far as performance. i wonder why they can get more out the LGT 2.5 though?

Alan,

I was doing a little digging about that 0-60mph in 4.7 seconds claim by Cobb for their Stage 2 package and it seems higly unlikely with an increase to just 305hp.

Here are threads on legacygt.com discussing Stage 2 1/4 mile times:

(stage 2) http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10669

(heavily modded stage 2) http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showt...ighlight=stage


Besides Cobb, Vishnu Tuning is one of the most respected tuners in the industry. They offer ECU flash packages for both the Legacy 2.5GT and FXT. All of the performance times Vishnu posts are actual times that have been accomplished.

The V300 power package is offered for the 2.5GT:

http://www.vishnutuning.com/legacy_v300.htm

Their estimated gains are 0-60mph in 5.3 seconds and the standing ¼ mile in 13.9 seconds at 100mph.

The V280 power package is offered for the FXT:

http://www.vishnutuning.com/forrester_v280.htm

Their estimated gains are 0-60mph in 5.1 seconds and the standing ¼ mile in 13.5 seconds at 100mph.

Needless to say, an FXT can still have a power deficit against a 2.5GT and still be much faster.

-Chike

[Chiketkd]

Another thing you need to remember that these estimates are all for 5MT 2.5GT's and FXT's. The 5EAT versions run roughly 0.3-0.4 seconds slower...

-Chike