Bush administration at it again

[lhopp77]

Originally Posted by demonsvx

End result will be some sort of draft CANADA HERE I COME!!!

Don't let the door hit you in the ass. You obviously think that freedom is someone else's responsibility.


Lee

[mohrds]

Originally Posted by lhopp77

Don't let the door hit you in the ass. You obviously think that freedom is someone else's responsibility.
Lee

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by demonsvx

End result will be some sort of draft CANADA HERE I COME!!!

will you take all those whiny celebrities who keep threatening to leave (but never do) with you?

kthanx.

[Phast SVX]

Originally Posted by Landshark

will you take all those whiny celebrities who keep threatening to leave (but never do) with you?

kthanx.

Tom cruise please too......

[Royal Tiger]

I want to see jack@$$ jane fonda burned at the stake for her bull crap in the 70's, to be followed by idiots like michael moore and susan surandon. Yes we are entilted to our own opinion, but I can't call a press confrence to spew my opinion. Or make a movie full of lies and exagerations that idiots in this country take verbatem. Like all the morons who watch CSI and complain because we don't lift a fingerprint from a doorknob.

[Noir]

Originally Posted by lhopp77

You obviously think that freedom is someone else's responsibility.


Lee

it is. it's daddy and mommy's responsibility.

[Electrophil]

Originally Posted by sicksubie

I am curious as to why you think that Bush should be impeached. I don't want to just hear "He's a crappy president, blah, blah, blah" I want to hear exactly on what grounds he should be impeached. Please, intelligent responses only.

That on 11 September, George W. Bush, through negligence, and in-attention to detail, and after several warnings, did cause the manslaughter of 2,740 Americans and 236 Foreigners in New York. He is found responsible in the same manner a drunk driver is found responsible for his crimes. By not following protocol and ignoring documented warnings given him through both current and previous government employees, and while on extended Vacation, he allowed the formulation and execution of the largest terrorist act in world history. This was accomplished despite the existance of the world largest intelligence agency. George W. Bush further aggravated this inept scenario by giving medals of Honor to the superiors in charge of these intelligence agencies.


There are 5 other very easy charges that everyone knows. Either I'll get to them after work, or someone else will beat me to it. I'm sure all can trump lying about oral sex.... unless the extreme religious right. They feel it's worse.

It's only a matter of time. The only thing that is protecting this administration is a republican controlled house. That scenario doesn't have that much longer to last.... It's already in the cards.

I'd like to see it happen sooner. There's a lot of damage they can still do.

[Landshark]

Originally Posted by Electrophil

That on 11 September, George W. Bush, through negligence, and in-attention to detail, and after several warnings, did cause the manslaughter of 2,740 Americans and 236 Foreigners in New York. He is found responsible in the same manner a drunk driver is found responsible for his crimes. By not following protocol and ignoring documented warnings given him through both current and previous government employees, and while on extended Vacation, he allowed the formulation and execution of the largest terrorist act in world history. This was accomplished despite the existance of the world largest intelligence agency.

Bush was only in office a few months. Clinton had several opportunities to have Bin Laden's head served up to him, but declined.

yeah, blame Bush for 9/11.

[Electrophil]

Originally Posted by Landshark

Bush was only in office a few months. Clinton had several opportunities to have Bin Laden's head served up to him, but declined.

yeah, blame Bush for 9/11.

According to the 9/11 commission report, the first of the terrorists arrived in the United States on 19 January.

Clinton did not have an opportunity to get Bin Laden. Dubai refused to allow our people to perform "the mission" when Bin Laden was there. In Afghanistan... Too much pressure from ... ready?... Halliburton who was trying to get approval to build a pipeline. They are building it now. The president of Afghanistan is none other than the previous middle east consultant for Haliburton. It all fits nicely into a neat little package.

These are facts.

[mohrds]

Originally Posted by Electrophil

These are facts.

That is Bull. You are the exact puppet that the liberal mouthpeice hopes for. Someone who beleives and spreads the lies as they come out without question. Even the liberal mouthpeice MSNBC blames Clinton for not getting Bin Laden.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/
"NBC News has obtained, exclusively, extraordinary secret video, shot by the U.S. government. It illustrates an enormous opportunity the Clinton administration had to kill or capture bin Laden. Critics call it a missed opportunity."

Plus from Billy's mouth: "Mr. Bin Laden used to live in Sudan ... And we’d been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start meeting with them again. They released him. At the time, '96, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we suspected he masterminded the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and that he wanted to commit future crimes against America."

Then in 1998, President Clinton announced, “We will use all the means at our disposal to bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes.”

ABC News even reported that Janet Reno too turned down the 911 mastermind:

"Federal agents seeking bin Laden had developed a plan to have a plane fly in and attack a compound in Kandahar, Afghanistan, where the terror leader was believed to have been holed up back in 1998 — three years before the devastating attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. But when the plan went up the chain of command for approval, it was killed by then-Attorney General Janet Reno. 'They came to the decision that this plan was probably too dangerous, that the loss of life on the ground would have been significant,' (former FBI agent Jack) Cloonan said. 'There was concern that people around the bin Laden compound would be killed.'"

From the LA Times:
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20page..._bin_laden.htm
"The offer, which would have brought Bin Laden to the Arab country as the first step of an extradition process that would eventually deliver him to the U.S., required only that Clinton make a state visit there to personally request Bin Laden's extradition. But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer, letting it get caught up in internal politics within the ruling family--Clintonian diplomacy at its best.

Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history."

[sicksubie]

Originally Posted by lhopp77

Don't let the door hit you in the ass. You obviously think that freedom is someone else's responsibility.


Lee

AMEN...

I'm 20 and about to graduate college in 18 months and getting engaged soon, but if a draft occurred I would not be in it either. I would be volunteering so I could choose what branch I go into. I have done nothing as of yet to deserve being an American. By sheer luck we were born here and nothing of our own doing. Any of us could have been born in a country where posting a thread like this could result in beheadings of those who disagreed with the government. Anybody who runs away to avoid the draft should never be allowed back into the country. EVER!!!

[sicksubie]

It also makes me sick to think of my buddies that are already in the army and marines that are risking their lives for things like you.

[sicksubie]

Originally Posted by mohrds

That is Bull. You are the exact puppet that the liberal mouthpeice hopes for. Someone who beleives and spreads the lies as they come out without question. Even the liberal mouthpeice MSNBC blames Clinton for not getting Bin Laden.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4540958/
"NBC News has obtained, exclusively, extraordinary secret video, shot by the U.S. government. It illustrates an enormous opportunity the Clinton administration had to kill or capture bin Laden. Critics call it a missed opportunity."

Plus from Billy's mouth: "Mr. Bin Laden used to live in Sudan ... And we’d been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start meeting with them again. They released him. At the time, '96, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we suspected he masterminded the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and that he wanted to commit future crimes against America."

Then in 1998, President Clinton announced, “We will use all the means at our disposal to bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes.”

ABC News even reported that Janet Reno too turned down the 911 mastermind:

"Federal agents seeking bin Laden had developed a plan to have a plane fly in and attack a compound in Kandahar, Afghanistan, where the terror leader was believed to have been holed up back in 1998 — three years before the devastating attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. But when the plan went up the chain of command for approval, it was killed by then-Attorney General Janet Reno. 'They came to the decision that this plan was probably too dangerous, that the loss of life on the ground would have been significant,' (former FBI agent Jack) Cloonan said. 'There was concern that people around the bin Laden compound would be killed.'"

From the LA Times:
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20page..._bin_laden.htm
"The offer, which would have brought Bin Laden to the Arab country as the first step of an extradition process that would eventually deliver him to the U.S., required only that Clinton make a state visit there to personally request Bin Laden's extradition. But senior Clinton officials sabotaged the offer, letting it get caught up in internal politics within the ruling family--Clintonian diplomacy at its best.

Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history."

I could not have said it any better.

[Phast SVX]

i believe the "loss of life" broke down to this:
simply becuase a UAE plane had been spotted in the near vicinity.
Officals tried to persuade him but he didnt want to risk dealing with it. Ya, that sounds like the type of situation that got us into this does't it.

phil

[demonsvx]

Originally Posted by Landshark

will you take all those whiny celebrities who keep threatening to leave (but never do) with you?

kthanx.

The Canada comment is only for a needless war such as Iraq , now if I was DRAFTED to hunt down someone who actually ATTACKED the United States I gladly would do it. I hope I am not giving anybody the wrong picture of how I feel I love this country but when a administration puts the Patriot Act before the Constitution I start to worry If you believe going to Iraq to find WMDs thats your opinion. Bush AND Clinton are responsible for 9-11, why? Clinton had the opportunity to do many times and Bush had previous knowledge ie:WTC 1993 ,USS Cole, Embassy attacks in 1998 and the failed attempt to HIJACK PLANES over the Pacific. Why was there no response to the 9-11 hijackings(scramble planes)? Why did Bush sit there and do nothing for 10 minutes? Why did we drop Afganistan to go to Iraq? I think if we dropped 150000 troops in Afganistan we would had Bin Laden in less than a year. We will see what happens when a terrorist attack and we go to Threat Level Red. Ill be damned if they take my kids from school to a "undisclosed location" and refuse me from getting them(yes this IS standard protocol in the school systems) We already have a lockdown procedure where I work-what for the "gubberment" to protect me,whatever I support our troops no matter what they are assigned to do. Its the upper govt that worries me.