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You will have a hard time finding 2 flowmasters small enough to fit in the stock muffler location.
I have the single in - dual out flowmaster 80 muffler mainly because nothing else would fit. It is loud - sometimes too loud. It sounds great at low rpm and at high rpm but has the 2.5-3k rpm buzz that I have never been able to get rid of. I originally thought it was the resonator so I chopped that off and put in a straight pipe, no go, then the stock muffler came off for a dynomax super turbo - even more buzzing, then the flowmaster went in -still buzzing and super loud, added a glasspack where the resonator was and it was a little quieter but there is still that buzzing at certain rpm. I will try to record a decent sound file and post it
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Matt Locker Link 2015 BRZ Limited 6MT 92 Ebony LS-L ECUtune Stage2av1, Z32 MAF, 370cc injectors, TomsSVX intake, BontragerWorks 22mm RSB #003, HID Hi and Lo beams, OT endlink and bushing mods, PWR Aluminum radiator, Harvey's QC shift kit, 2.5" flowmaster 80 exhaust, 17" Michelin Pilot Sport A/S, Poly sway bar bushings, Slotted Bradi rotors, AFBeefcake powdercoated calipers, 97 grill, and a huge set of air horns. 300,000 miles and counting 92 Ebony LS-L. ecutune stage1v4, motorsport 1pc pulley. Garage Queen - sold to Dad in upstate NY 155,000 miles 19 Subaru Ascent Premium - -Hers !. 89 DL 4x4 little red wagon - a.k.a. The immortal suby. 275k R.I.P. |
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I used to 'tune' exhaust for some of my better customers. I would take a piece of 3" tubing, about 18" - 24" long and 'ball' the ends closed to where they would be snug against the pipe I was going to slide inside. (I'm guessing the SVX is 2 1/4", whatever) A good muffler shop will know how to do this.
Anyway, weld the front nipple/pipe flush to the end of the 3" piece and install on car. The rear piece I would slide in/out (the old in & out ) as the customer sat in the car and revved the engine. The air inside the rear of the 3" acts as a cushion to help eliminate the 'buzziness', being able to vary the depth will change the 'buzz' and the rpm it occurs at. Some engines you'll get lucky and eliminate it all together. When you find the spot you like weld it up and finish the system. I suppose you could use a large glasspack (sometimes called a 'blank') and accomplish the same, maybe actually better. I know it wouldn't be as pretty but turning the tips down (when able) will eliminate a lot of racket too. Beav |
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I see nothing wrong with wanting to keep the SVX stock...it is an amazing automobile, and there is no real need to enhance it. HOWEVER...i would be the first to start digging into possible mods if it were my car. Keep in mind that i am the type of guy who will buy a 325hp Trans Am (already way too powerful) and pay Lingenfelter Performance $6000 to put more muscle in there. Not that it's needed, but it's there!
From my experience, Flowmaster is not the kind of sound you want on an SVX. Of the ones i heard, the Stebro system seems most to my liking. I don't think it really is far from a porsche. On the performance end, don't expect much, especially if the exhaust is all you are doing. Balance it out with a higher flowing intake (be sure to use some sort of heat shielding device or you will be doing more harm than help), and you may see a slight improvement. It will sound good with that combo though. |
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Stock or Rock'n'Roll?
This argument keeps coming up. New kids on the block come from two schools of endeavour; the "I want to stamp my individuality on this car" school, and the closely related "This car has good potential, let's bolt on a turbo/nitrous/3 foot spoiler etc etc ..." school, which is more performance than cosmetically oriented.
On the other side, the conservative ones also have various shades of opinion. The Eddycat school of maintenance and servicing means you can put anything you like on the car, provided it is stock, endorsed by Subaru, in the manual, on the Technical sheets etc. Less conservative views would allow upgrades like fully synthetic ATF, additional coolers, cryo treated rotors and so on. Personally, I tend to be conservative about how the car looks, liking the original non-spoilered look preferred by the designer. But I am still in the less conservative camp when it comes to improvements. Practically anything that makes the car go better, last longer or be more reliable is OK by me. Keeping the car absolutely stock implies you either think the original design was perfect and could not be improved [we 2 and 3 tranny people know better] or you are preserving the car for some future date when it will be classic, and originality is important to buyers. It is not helpful to rubbish the other side, whichever side you're on. The forum thrives on the diversity of opinion and people we have posting here, our greatest asset. Having said that, I am far enough away not to have to listen to dadblasted "uprated" exhausts noise polluting my neighbourhood. To each his own. Joe
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I'll ditto that. I know it appears that I'm a stock guy, but I really don't care. I do get tired of hearing crappy cheap mufflers that make any car sound horrible, but that's me. When I advise someone against a mod it's mainly because I think they're looking for some great benefit that I know just isn't going to happen, or worse yet, will cause something to break, be unreliable, etc. Viva la difference. I do hate seeing someone spends $$$$$$$ on shiny this and thats, thumping stereos and custom tires and wheels then crying poor-mouth when something breaks and they can't afford the proper repair. That leads to a nice car turning into a pile-o-crap.
With my luck the car is then sold and the new owner brings it to me for repairs and I have to undo all that fantastic home engineering.... I can understand where Eddycat was coming from in that respect. Like I've said before, if we all liked the same things we'd be standing a heckuva long line. Beav |
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Level [10] with me...
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On another question relating to the tranny. I have the internals from my '92 tranny in a box. Do you think it worthwhile to get the Level 10 valve body modification done? If so, I could ship off the valve body from the older transmission and have it redone, then fitted to the transmission I currently have in the car[assuming it fits a '96 tranny]. What do you think? Is it worth the time and money and effort? Joe
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I'm not a tranny guy, but I do have an inkling about what's going on inside. A quality rebuild and the firming up of the shifting will yield a longer lasting transmission. Soft shifts are very hard on a transmission.
From what I've read the updates to improve lubrication (which was a major faux pas when they decided to add an extra clutch without providing extra lube) most of the inherent problems have been eliminated. The torque convertor clutch was also flaking and plugging the coolers so I would imagine the friction material inside it has been upgraded also. I'm not going to pretend to know exactly what L10 does to their trannies but I'll venture to guess that most of the valve body work is aimed at firming up the shifts. They may have found a way to raise the speed at which fourth gear engages and re-mapped the tc lock-up, but I suspect that's strictly controlled by the TCU. I suspect what they've done is adapted a Trans-Go shift improver kit (for either Mazda or Nissan which use a variant of the same trans.) Look here (http://www.bulkparts.com/)to see some info, you might try corresponding with Trans-Go, it may save you some bucks. Beav |
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Thanks Beav
Will do. Joe
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flowmaster sound file
Here's what it sounds like from inside the car with a flowmaster 80 and glasspack. I apologize in advance for the quality but wanted to keep the file size small.
Ricey? - you be the judge.
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Matt Locker Link 2015 BRZ Limited 6MT 92 Ebony LS-L ECUtune Stage2av1, Z32 MAF, 370cc injectors, TomsSVX intake, BontragerWorks 22mm RSB #003, HID Hi and Lo beams, OT endlink and bushing mods, PWR Aluminum radiator, Harvey's QC shift kit, 2.5" flowmaster 80 exhaust, 17" Michelin Pilot Sport A/S, Poly sway bar bushings, Slotted Bradi rotors, AFBeefcake powdercoated calipers, 97 grill, and a huge set of air horns. 300,000 miles and counting 92 Ebony LS-L. ecutune stage1v4, motorsport 1pc pulley. Garage Queen - sold to Dad in upstate NY 155,000 miles 19 Subaru Ascent Premium - -Hers !. 89 DL 4x4 little red wagon - a.k.a. The immortal suby. 275k R.I.P. |
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just my opinion
The only thing Ive ever heard Flowmaster sound good on are SUVs, and Mustangs. Because they are only baffled inside, they really tend to have a hollow, too raspy sound on any thing else. I dont suggest it, youll get tired of it real fast. Thats one reason I chose to sell, and offer the Magnaflow (and use it on our own cars, with a 18" resonator inline and 2.5" pipe from the catback) If you pick any brand, go for the Camaro style Cross-flow design, you only need one, it fits great and saves weight too.
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