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Old 02-21-2006, 04:32 PM
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SRT-4 is f4st3r

In all honesty though, I think I could make it up that hill!
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Old 02-21-2006, 04:59 PM
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the svx can go to 50/50 can't it?
Yes, it does this under WOT.
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All-Wheel-Drive with viscous Limited Slip rear differential using a 90/10% power split front/rear, which transfers up to a 50/50% power split for maximum traction if the wheels start to slip.

quoted from http://www.cars101.com/subaru_svx.html

This is where i'm getting my information from. Since i'm hearing both from this thread I would like to know which is correct.
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Old 02-21-2006, 05:22 PM
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I thought we had a 40/60 split front/rear??

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All the US models are the same as the Legacy. Use a transfer clutch to drive the back wheels, if the front wheels slip. The torque split is normally 90% front,10% rear, when cruising on a light throttle. As you apply throttle, transfer clutch will apply more torque to the rear. If the front wheels start to slip, it will apply 50% to each end.

The Euro model uses an epicycle gear set to split the torque to 36% front &64% rear. The clutch in this model acts as a Limited Slip clutch. Any slip at either end will apply the clutch to apply 50% to each end.

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Old 02-21-2006, 05:44 PM
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Well, I listened to it with sound. Didn't know it was in German. It looked like the Audi had more speed hitting the hill. And the rear end slid a little going up the hill. I think it is very conspicous that they didn't have a Subaru.
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Old 02-21-2006, 08:44 PM
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I am sure that any subaru (with AWD) can make it and many of our members with other subarus will agree on it with out any doubt, but i doubt SVX due to its low ground clearance. All the vehicles over there are having more clearance than ours.

It really looks strange not having any subbie in the competition.

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Old 02-21-2006, 08:49 PM
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Ever hit the gas and your front wheels spin? I bet it happens a lot, because well it's an svx. That's because 70-90% of the power is up front. If the bigger half were in the rear, your rear tires would easily spin.

I have never to this day lit my front tires up at all....even in the rain.
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Old 02-21-2006, 08:58 PM
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I have never to this day lit my front tires up at all....even in the rain.
Yep the front wheels spin occasionally, but very rare in my case and not so noticeable unless u concentrate on it. Yes, try to hit the gas really hard I am sure u will notice it.

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Old 02-21-2006, 09:20 PM
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I am sure that any subaru (with AWD) can make it and many of our members with other subarus will agree on it with out any doubt, but i doubt SVX due to its low ground clearance. All the vehicles over there are having more clearance than ours.

It really looks strange not having any subbie in the competition.

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Perhaps they were worried about getting their arses beat down the title is Audi VS everyone else
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Perhaps they were worried about getting their arses beat down the title is Audi VS everyone else
No kidding, I know for a fact that the Nissan can take it. Guess this video is to make Germans more credible??? I don't know if my svx could make that hill, but my legacy can run circles around that Audi while going up it with all seasons.
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but my legacy can run circles around that Audi while going up it with all seasons.
I am with u, no bias on subbie, but there r many live situations we came accross where subbies are making those taks easy. Ofcourse I dont want to argue for/against audi and it has its own advantages

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Old 02-22-2006, 05:01 AM
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I watched the video over and over. The BMW has a closeup of the tires. The tire thread pattern was different for the Nissan. So did they all have the exact same tires in different sizes?

My '97 Outback has gone thru some pretty bad snows. but not as bad as that hill. I had my '92 SVX out in 8" of snow with almost bald Yokohama AVS dBs on it (the first series not the mark II's). These tires were terrible (s*ck)in snow and driving cautiosly, I had only minor problems. I had the '92 SVX out in a 6" snow withTOYO T1S ( high speed summer tires) tires. It
I've had my '97 SVX out in the same snow with good Dunlop SP-5000 AS (ultra high speed all-season) tires. It performed much better than the '92 on bald AVX dBs.
I also had the '97 SVX out in 6" snow with TOYO T-1S tires (summer high speed tires). The '97 performed better that the '92 on the AVS dBs. The '92 now has AVS dB mark IIs. They are an improvement over the original AVS dBs. But, They still are not as good as the Dunlops in snow.

However, our '97 Outback is much better in snow, even with crappy tires, than all our SVXes


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The omossion of the Outback (or any other Subaru) is a bit glaring. As for the rest of the vehicles, as said before, tire selection and driving technique probably had more influence on the outcome.

An interesting Audi commercial
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Old 02-22-2006, 11:09 PM
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I ain't sure who made the video......just browsed and thought it was interesting to show you.

I did get stuck once with my teal svx. That's in a snowstorm night...I was naughty enough to drive in to an unplowed parking lot. I think it was 10" more. I had the problem to open my door...when I was on "D", I got off and I saw my front tires were trying to move(get traction) and my rear tires were spinning in the air. The snow was too thick and the SVX didn't have enough clearance, period.

I would love to challenge that hill no matter my SVX is 5spd or Auto. I might have a chance if I don't stop. If I stop half-way, it'd require more effort to move up again - I always go to play with ice/snow on some very steep hills when snow comes.

I agree with that it also depends on the car, the AWD system, the tires, the driving skill and etc. It will be cool if there're the Subaru, the MB SUV, the VW SUV to see who'd perform the best. Also, I think that Audi made it can be because it has one of the oldest/best AWD system technologies.
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Old 02-24-2006, 11:40 AM
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I ain't sure who made the video......just browsed and thought it was interesting to show you.

I agree with that it also depends on the car, the AWD system, the tires, the driving skill and etc. It will be cool if there're the Subaru, the MB SUV, the VW SUV to see who'd perform the best. Also, I think that Audi made it can be because it has one of the oldest/best AWD system technologies.
Since no other Audi owners have chimed in yet... The Audi and Subaru AWD systems feel virtually identical to me. The only big differences I've noticed were not really based on capabilities of the systems, but weights of the cars. It situations where a snow bank might toss the SVX, my A8 would just flatten it. That particular car was an Allroad, 2.7 twin turbo with height-adjustable suspension. At its highest setting it is probably neck-in-neck with an Outback as far as ground clearance. Having said that, I think an Outback could take that hill with no problem. The B9 Tribeca can definitely own that hill, too.
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