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Old 02-27-2008, 04:36 PM
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problem with using the plastic tanks are they will be more vulnerable to stress cracks, hence the reason I asked if they were running an all-aluminum radiator... Dan, it might be worth experimenting with... but might want to bring some back-up supplies just in case

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Old 02-27-2008, 07:56 PM
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Radiator caps are cheap. I might try the 19-21 psi first. I forget. Is our radiator cap a standard size? Bought one once before, but don't remember what I bought.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:57 PM
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anyone willing to point toward the cast cross over pipe that connects the two halves of the engine coolant system together as a potential contributor to the cooling "issues"? Given its shape, I can almost get myself to believe it is contributing to gas bubbles....just something to throw out there for discussion.
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Radiator caps are cheap. I might try the 19-21 psi first. I forget. Is our radiator cap a standard size? Bought one once before, but don't remember what I bought.
not saying the cap will be damaged... hopefully the plastic radiator will hold the new pressure.

Bill, you are right with your thinking as it has crossed my mind as well... But trying to find a way to prove this theory is going to be troublesome

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Old 02-27-2008, 09:26 PM
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I have a 18psi STi radiator cap on my car with a stock radiator
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Has anyone bought OEM lately? I was told by a lady in the service department at the Subaru dealer that SOA superceded the original SVX radiator with a metal design. I haven't been able to confirm it, except that the SOA parts system does show that the part number has been superceded. With what it doesn't specify.

So, anyone out there lately who bought P/N 45199PA001? Is it metal, or still plastic?

Sorry for the hijack, RallyBob.
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Old 02-28-2008, 04:45 AM
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I don't know about the SVX, but when I installed a crucial cap in my WRX, not to long after I started getting seam leaks between the tank and the core. Aluminum is the way to go, and from his post, this is the way he went. He is running a Koyo aluminum, which is what I run in my WRX as well.

I have had seen these planstic tanks crack a couple of times, so I think you may have gotten some bad information. Either that or they deteriorate fast. Don't forget, aluminum can be repaired too.
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Bob:

If you come up with a good aluminum pan design and would like to spread the cost among some folks, I would be very interested in participating in a group buy.

Anyone else interested

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Old 02-28-2008, 09:47 AM
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Bob:

If you come up with a good aluminum pan design and would like to spread the cost among some folks, I would be very interested in participating in a group buy.

Anyone else interested

Chuck D.
It won't be an aluminum pan, largely because it's easier to start with the OEM as a foundation. Jack purchased a new stock steel pan last year, and I'll just build it off that.

I personally can't manufacture the pans, but I could possibly provide templates for someone else to do it if you guys are interested in a group buy.

The trap doors will be something similar to these. pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4, pic5.

It's a style I've used a lot in the past on circle track, race and rally engines. Pretty simple and cheap material-wise, but just time consuming for someone like me to build (in other words expensive for one-offs). You need to find someone with mass production capabilities to make it cost-effective.

The only other addition would be a crank scraper most likely. The windage must be extreme at 8000+ rpms.

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Old 02-28-2008, 11:05 AM
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not saying the cap will be damaged... hopefully the plastic radiator will hold the new pressure.

Bill, you are right with your thinking as it has crossed my mind as well... But trying to find a way to prove this theory is going to be troublesome

Tom
Tom,
I'm seriously considering fabricating a replacement out of Al tubing, making sure that it has a greater volume than the stock piece. I've got a spare stock piece in the garage to use as a guide. Now, if I can just figure out when I'll have time to do it
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:25 AM
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point is Bill, why bother fabricating this piece when it may not be the culprit?? A long day at the track and a laser thermometer may be a little conclusive??

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Old 02-28-2008, 02:14 PM
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point is Bill, why bother fabricating this piece when it may not be the culprit?? A long day at the track and a laser thermometer may be a little conclusive??

Tom
Ah, because fabricating is a diversion I enjoy?
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p.s. but seriously, the forming of the gas bubble is a transient event and we'd have to instrument the h*ll out of the block (quick response thermocouples, etc.) to determine conclusively where the bubble is actually forming. It's probably easier to just replace the stock piece and run the h*ll out of the car to see if the problem has gone away.
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Old 03-03-2008, 04:52 PM
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Teeny update.

Jack got in his high pressure radiator cap. He did a test to the car's cooling system, it held at 24 psi, no problem. He then tested the new cap, it held at 23 psi for 1 hour, no loss of pressure. He tested the old cap that was on the car, it started to bleed pressure at 12-13 psi, and went downhill from there. All pressure gone within 5 minutes.

So it appears the overheating culprit may have been nothing more than a bad radiator cap. Here's hoping....

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cool!! Thanks for the update!

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Old 03-03-2008, 05:00 PM
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cool!! Thanks for the update!

Tom
Another small teaser then.

I *might* be contracted to fully develop an EG33 for a top level driver in a yet unnamed US motorsport. We're thinking totally outside the box, but it might raise a few eyebrows and most likely will cause the rulesmakers to have to rewrite those rules, as I personally think it will be a dominant car/driver combination.

But we'll just have to see how it pans out during the planning stages.
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