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Old 01-04-2005, 06:40 AM
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Question Why are all my sensors dying???

Anyone got any input here? All my sensors in my car appear to be dying and I can't seem to get them fixed. The Crank Position Sensor was the first, then the O2 sensor. I replaced both Crank Position Sensors but the problem code never went away. Had some other problems that went away... now I dowloaded the logs from the last month and was amazed to find the O2 sensor to be a problem again (not sure which one), but now I've also got a camshaft position sensor problem and a problem with a coil!!!

Here's the raw data from my download. Does this look like a valid set of problems, or could I be looking at my OBDII system just self-destructing? Input anyone?


Title : View / Vehicle Trouble Log / Summary
Rows : 148
Columns : 4
Column 01 : Time []
Column 02 : Vehicle []
Column 03 : Trouble Code []
Column 04 : Description []
12/11/2004 10:01 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/11/2004 3:48 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/11/2004 3:59 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/11/2004 5:07 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/11/2004 6:18 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/11/2004 6:43 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/12/2004 1:36 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/12/2004 2:20 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/12/2004 2:20 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/12/2004 3:12 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/12/2004 3:12 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/14/2004 7:18 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/14/2004 7:18 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/14/2004 8:35 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/14/2004 8:35 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/15/2004 7:05 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/15/2004 7:05 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/15/2004 6:08 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/15/2004 6:08 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/16/2004 7:17 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/16/2004 7:17 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/16/2004 11:37 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/16/2004 11:37 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/16/2004 1:01 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/16/2004 1:01 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/16/2004 6:18 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/16/2004 6:18 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/16/2004 7:29 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/16/2004 7:29 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/16/2004 10:19 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/16/2004 10:19 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/17/2004 7:03 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/17/2004 7:03 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/17/2004 8:13 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/17/2004 8:13 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/17/2004 8:26 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/17/2004 8:26 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/17/2004 8:40 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/18/2004 2:14 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/18/2004 2:14 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/18/2004 2:14 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/18/2004 3:40 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/18/2004 3:40 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/18/2004 3:40 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/18/2004 4:25 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/18/2004 4:25 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/18/2004 4:25 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/18/2004 4:26 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/20/2004 7:15 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/20/2004 7:15 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/20/2004 7:15 AM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/20/2004 7:15 AM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/20/2004 8:12 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/20/2004 8:12 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/20/2004 8:12 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/20/2004 8:12 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/21/2004 7:10 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/21/2004 7:10 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/21/2004 7:10 AM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/21/2004 7:10 AM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/21/2004 7:22 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/21/2004 7:22 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/21/2004 7:22 AM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/21/2004 7:23 AM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/21/2004 6:30 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/21/2004 6:30 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/21/2004 6:30 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/21/2004 6:30 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/21/2004 7:34 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/21/2004 7:34 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/21/2004 7:34 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/21/2004 7:34 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/22/2004 7:08 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/22/2004 7:08 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/22/2004 7:08 AM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/22/2004 7:08 AM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/22/2004 6:30 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/22/2004 6:30 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/22/2004 6:30 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/22/2004 6:30 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/23/2004 7:34 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/23/2004 7:34 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/23/2004 7:34 AM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/23/2004 7:34 AM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/23/2004 7:31 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/23/2004 7:31 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/23/2004 7:31 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/23/2004 7:31 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/24/2004 6:57 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/24/2004 6:57 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/24/2004 6:57 AM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/24/2004 6:57 AM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/24/2004 8:18 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/24/2004 8:18 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/24/2004 8:18 AM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/24/2004 8:18 AM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/24/2004 2:34 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/24/2004 2:34 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/24/2004 2:34 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/24/2004 2:34 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/24/2004 3:20 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/24/2004 3:20 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/24/2004 3:20 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/24/2004 3:20 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/24/2004 3:46 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/24/2004 3:46 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/24/2004 3:46 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/24/2004 3:46 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/29/2004 3:22 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/29/2004 3:22 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/29/2004 3:22 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/29/2004 3:22 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/29/2004 3:56 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/29/2004 3:56 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/29/2004 3:56 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/29/2004 3:56 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/30/2004 1:14 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/30/2004 1:14 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/30/2004 1:14 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/30/2004 1:14 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/30/2004 2:16 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/30/2004 2:16 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/30/2004 2:16 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/30/2004 2:16 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/30/2004 2:50 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/30/2004 2:50 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/30/2004 2:50 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/30/2004 2:50 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/30/2004 3:13 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/30/2004 3:13 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/30/2004 3:13 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/30/2004 3:13 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/30/2004 4:59 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/30/2004 4:59 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/30/2004 4:59 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/30/2004 4:59 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/30/2004 5:23 PM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/30/2004 5:23 PM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/30/2004 5:23 PM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/30/2004 5:23 PM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/31/2004 7:00 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/31/2004 7:00 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/31/2004 7:00 AM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/31/2004 7:00 AM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
12/31/2004 8:12 AM P0353 Ignition Coil "C" Primary/Secondary Circuit
12/31/2004 8:12 AM P0337 Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit Low Input
12/31/2004 8:12 AM P0348 Camshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit High Input (Bank 2)
12/31/2004 8:12 AM P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
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Old 01-04-2005, 08:05 AM
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I'd check for some bad grounds on the motor....as they can cause the same codes....
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Old 01-04-2005, 09:50 AM
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Yeah, I agree with Huck - bad grounds or even bad connectors, maybe? I don't have enough experience with the wiring harnesses to say what wires go through what connectors with what other wires, but could a compromised connector cause errors like this? Maybe stripped insulation somewhere?
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Old 01-04-2005, 03:58 PM
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Normally if we find a run of more than one or two sensors throwing codes we begin to take a good look at the ECU. I'm never one to scream 'computer' without a lot of investigation, but your list looks a bit suspicious. Maybe someone will loan you one to try.
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Yeah, both the grounds and the ECU were my suspicions also.

First; the simple one. Where are the main grounds in the engine bay? I intend to go through at the weekend and see what's loose or broken.

Second; anyone got an ECU from a 1996 or 1997 car that they can loan me for a week or so? I'll cover any necessary shipping!
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Old 01-05-2005, 11:30 AM
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How's your battery?

My Justy started throwing multiple codes but it turned out my battery was dead.
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