Rear Wheel Bearing No.

Trevor · #1 03-06-2002, 03:42 PM

I have slight rear wheel bearing noise on one side and have decided to renew both bearings before things become critical. N.B. This is after 110K, Klms. of trouble free motoring. For obvious reasons I do not wish to replace with the same brand of bearings as original and therefore have gone to specialised bearing suppliers, several of whom advise they are sure they can supply if they have the bearing number rather than the Subaru part no. They do not have a cross reference for the SVX as they have for the Legacy etc.

Can anyone please assist with this number which will be found on the actual bearing if anyone has one on hand or on an invoice if one has been purchased ? No doubt there would be others who would like to have this number on record For future reference. Many thanks in anticipation. Trevor, ( From way down under in New Zealand ) P. S. I am now off for a swim at the local beach.

#2 03-06-2002, 04:03 PM

Hey trevor... is your SVX a JDM model? if so, which model?

-Mike

Aredubjay · #3 03-06-2002, 04:06 PM

Trevor, I don't know if these numbers will help, although they look like Beck Arnley numbers. I got them some time ago. None of the numbers seem to be Subaru Part numbers.

SMOTHERS:
y Line Part No. Description List Sell Extension
92 SUBARU SVX
2 BCK 051-4035 BEARING 86.68 46.91 93.82
FR. WHEEL BEARING
2 BCK 051-4036 BEARING 94.40 51.09 102.18
R. WHEEL BEARING
2 BCK 052-3604 SEAL 13.20 6.61 13.22
2 BCK 052-3603 SEAL 10.15 5.08 10.16
ABOVE TWO NUMBERS ARE FR. SEALS
2 BCK 052-3570 SEAL 8.17 4.09 8.18
2 BCK 052-3645 SEAL 2.99 1.50 3.00
2 BCK 052-3586 SEAL 8.95 4.48 8.96
ABOVE THREE NUMBERS ARE R. SEALS AND O/RING

Beav · #4 03-06-2002, 04:07 PM

I can't give you a number but I'd like to say 110,000 kliks isn't all that bad. From what I've seen and read I think the bearing problems stem from a slightly overloaded bearing and replacements done incorrectly.

Most know that the grease needs to be removed and reloaded before installation. However I think that a lot of shops are using slide hammers and air hammers to remove/install the bearings. Not a pretty sight. They use a slide hammer to pull the hub from the bearings while still on the car, then remove the snap ring and air hammer the bearing out and back in. One slip of the hammer going back in will create a pock mark that will eventually cause bearing failure. Then the use of an air hammer to partially drive the hub into the bearing followed by an impact wrench on the big nut to seat the hub in the bearing is really hard on the precision surfaces.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't think it's so much the manufacture of the bearing as it is the method used to replace it. There are tools available to everyone that enable them to do the replacement, on the car and quickly. However the unfortunate news is most shops are too cheap to buy them. I bought one personally (about 500 coconuts) and whenever a car comes in that needs a bearing replaced I get the job.

It's making me money...

Beav

p.s. I never ever have a bearing comeback.

Aredubjay · #5 03-06-2002, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beav
I can't give you a number but I'd like to say 110,000 kliks isn't all that bad. From what I've seen and read I think the bearing problems stem from a slightly overloaded bearing and replacements done incorrectly.

Most know that the grease needs to be removed and reloaded before installation. However I think that a lot of shops are using slide hammers and air hammers to remove/install the bearings. Not a pretty sight. They use a slide hammer to pull the hub from the bearings while still on the car, then remove the snap ring and air hammer the bearing out and back in. One slip of the hammer going back in will create a pock mark that will eventually cause bearing failure. Then the use of an air hammer to partially drive the hub into the bearing followed by an impact wrench on the big nut to seat the hub in the bearing is really hard on the precision surfaces.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't think it's so much the manufacture of the bearing as it is the method used to replace it. There are tools available to everyone that enable them to do the replacement, on the car and quickly. However the unfortunate news is most shops are too cheap to buy them. I bought one personally (about 500 coconuts) and whenever a car comes in that needs a bearing replaced I get the job. It's making me money...

Beav

p.s. I never ever have a bearing comeback.

Hmmmm. Louisville's a day trip for me. Is your shop open on Saturdays? If not, it'd be worth taking a day of vacation when the time came to have mine changed.

The scene you just described makes me queezy.

Beav · #6 03-06-2002, 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Aredubjay

Hmmmm. Louisville's a day trip for me. Is your shop open on Saturdays? If not, it'd be worth taking a day of vacation when the time came to have mine changed.

The scene you just described makes me queezy.

Saturdays? Unfortunately yes.

However I do get a reprieve once/month, usually the first Saturday of the month.

Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do. However (my new favorite word, apparently), if you're careful it can be done successfully. Problem is experience helps immensely and that's difficult to find. I only know three or four mechanics in their 40's or older. I don't want this to sound like a slam against the young guys (I was one, once. I think....) but I'd be hard pressed to let someone under thirty or thirty-five work on my car. Timothy Leary in reverse.

I truly think that a lot of it comes from the fact that nobody 'fixes' anything anymore. They just yank it off and put a new one on. For that reason most don't have a truly functional understanding of what a certain part does, or what it takes to ensure its proper replacement. If they can figure a way to pound it in there, it's good to go.

How's that for a segue O/T?

Beav

vkykam · #7 03-06-2002, 06:24 PM

Aredub,

Are you sure those are the numbers on the bearing?

I swear I saw NTN and a part number stamped right on the bearing.

VK

Aredubjay · #8 03-06-2002, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by vkykam
Aredub,

Are you sure those are the numbers on the bearing?

I swear I saw NTN and a part number stamped right on the bearing.

VK

No, those aren't the numbers on the bearing. I have never seen an actual bearing, THANK GOD! Hope I never have to see one.

I was getting some prices (just in case) once, when I first got my car and was majorly paranoid. These were the part numbers from Smothers. As I said, they look to be Beck Arnley numbers as opposed to Subaru OEM numbers. Perhaps his supplier can cross reference the Beck's numbers.

Aredubjay · #9 03-06-2002, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beav

Saturdays? Unfortunately yes. However I do get a reprieve once/month, usually the first Saturday of the month.

Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do. However (my new favorite word, apparently), if you're careful it can be done successfully. Problem is experience helps immensely and that's difficult to find. I only know three or four mechanics in their 40's or older. I don't want this to sound like a slam against the young guys (I was one, once. I think....) but I'd be hard pressed to let someone under thirty or thirty-five work on my car. Timothy Leary in reverse.

I truly think that a lot of it comes from the fact that nobody 'fixes' anything anymore. They just yank it off and put a new one on. For that reason most don't have a truly functional understanding of what a certain part does, or what it takes to ensure its proper replacement. If they can figure a way to pound it in there, it's good to go.

How's that for a segue O/T?

Beav

So, does your service writer do requests? Or, do I takes my chances when I call to set a Saturday appointment (after the first Saturday of the month)?

Beav · #10 03-06-2002, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by Aredubjay

So, does your service writer do requests? Or, do I takes my chances when I call to set a Saturday appointment (after the first Saturday of the month)?

Requests? "We got both kinds of music, country AND western." (Blues Brothers)

Sure, we actually prefer appointments. Make sure you tell them you're coming from out of town and you want me to work on your car. Just don't get nervous when I start swinging my big hammer. I swear I've only hit two or three fenders by accident.

502.426.5020

Beav

p.s. and we won't make you listen to either kind of music...

Aredubjay · #11 03-06-2002, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beav

Requests? "We got both kinds of music, country AND western." (Blues Brothers) Sure, we actually prefer appointments. Make sure you tell them you're coming from out of town and you want me to work on your car. Just don't get nervous when I start swinging my big hammer. I swear I've only hit two or three fenders by accident. 502.426.5020

Beav

p.s. and we won't make you listen to either kind of music...

The only time I can abide either Country or Western is after an ample supply of Beers (a keg, maybe).

If you're close to a White Castle, I'll just go there while you're workin'. That way I don't have to see or hear your hammer <shudder>. I'll also have good reason to drive with my windows down on the way back home, then.

They'll be gettin' a call at the first sign of bearing noise.

Beav · #12 03-06-2002, 11:00 PM

Yup. You're in luck, they sell 'wolf cookies' about a block away.
Of course I can't eat there anymore...

Beav

Trevor · #13 03-07-2002, 03:22 AM

Special thanks to all who have replied. My car is a 92 , model CXWA23E, option code BXC, trim 220, Colour 265, I.E. black over claret. I have had it for 11 mths and it was imported second hand ( one Japanese owner ) from Japan and the 110K K's appear genuine as the service books came with it. It does not appear from close examination to have had a spanner laid on it. In all respects it is virtually as new.

To be honest I have been unable to credit the stories of trouble appearing on the net. and Yahoo and for some time have been sure that I have the correct picture which you now well and truly confirm in respect of repairs. Thankfully we have quite a few good honest mechanics who know what they are up to and have all the gear in the form of adaptable pullers, presses, etc. What is more I have built, modified and raced cars over many years so am not easily taken in.

Thanks Randy for the numbers which I will check out with suppliers. The NTN number mentioned appears what I am realy after and I wonder if Beav has a bearing on hand to have a look at.

Thanks again guys and further info will be welcome, Trevor.

Beav · #14 03-07-2002, 05:39 AM

Sorry, we don't keep any bearings in stock. Our inventory consists of mainly of quick movers - plugs, wires, filters, lamps, etc.

Beav

vkykam · #15 03-07-2002, 08:03 AM

Trevor,

Courtesy of sjlwel from a few years back:

>>Lets ee, I see the numbers 4T-CR1-08A02 and a JAPAN YN and a NTN<<

The message archive is a WONDERFUL thing. Kudos!

VK