SVX Network Forums Live Chat! SVX or Subaru Links Old Lockers Photo Post How-To Documents Message Archive SVX Shop Search |
IRC users: |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Auto box swap questions
Hi guys,
Hope that you can help here.... Just got myself a box from a 92 UK car - actually, it's still in the car at the moment. I intend to get it swapped into mine as it has been overhauled in the last 2k miles. Mine is a 92 jap import. Question - this Uk car has a different positioning for the auto controls. Do I need to change the wiring harness because of the following differences..... Where I have the park lock button at the top of the quadrant, this car has the power antenna switch (not aproblem obviously) On the shift lever, the UK has an ECON button, whereas mine is MAN At the bottom of the shift quadrant, the UK car has a MAN button, where mine has a POWER button. Thanks for your help - please! Tony |
#2
|
||||
|
||||
You need a good Irishman to jump in here.
__________________
May your transmission live forever. SuperbVehicleXtraordinary Proud sponsor of a 1992 SVX. |
#3
|
||||
|
||||
If you are just swapping the tranny you *should* be fine. The differences between cars are usually in the wiring harness so that major parts like clusters, switches, etc. can be a single part number for many markets.
I would compare the wires from the old tranny to the new one. Take a minute and write down the colors and pins and compare. Hopefully they will be identical. I'd bet a beer that the transmissions are identical, and it is in the TCU and harness that accommodates the different positions of those switches on the shifter assembly. Are both the transmissions variable torque split? The US is I believe 90/10 and 50/50 and some other markets were constant 50/50?? That could be the only sticking point. Doug
__________________
1992 LS Touring (6/91) - Currently undergoing a five speed swap Black over Claret with spoiler; 235,000 miles; Mods: 2002 Legacy 5 speed, ACT Pressure Plate, Excedy Clutch, Short Throw Shifter, Aussie Powerchip 1992 LS Touring (6/91) Black over Claret with 2.5" setback spoiler; 202,000 miles; Mods: B&M Cooler 1994 LSi (4/93) Bordeaux Pearl; 198,000 miles; Mods: Weight reduction. 1969 Mustang GT Convertible 1970 Mustang Convertible 2000 Ford Excursion Sola lingua bona est lingua mortua. My Locker |
#4
|
||||
|
||||
Jumppppp.....
Quote:
This problem is more psychological than cybernetic, more transendental than transmission, more a probe in the looms than a problem looming. Difficult. Why have the Japanese got a Power button, while the British are left to manage with an Econ button? Is this a Freudian slip, or should we worry about what a German psychologist might make of the conundrum? We know who won the War, back then, but it would take a wiry mind to figure out what is looming here. Much better, Grasshopper, not to be outmoded. Retain that which is essential, consign all else to the river. Svxistentialist [I drive, therefore, I am]
__________________
Black Betty [Bam a Lam!] '93 UK spec, still languishing Betty Jersey Girl Silver '92 UK [Channel Isles] 40K Jersey Girl @ Mersea Candy Purple Honda Blackbird Plum Dangerous White X2 RVR Mitsubishi 1800GDI. Vantastic 40,000 miles Jersey Girl |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
^^^^^^^^^
You had to suggest this didn't you, now see what we got? Quote:
|
#6
|
||||
|
||||
Sorry Tony,
I will tax my brain on this one for you tomorrow, when it clears itself of alcohol. The Government already taxes my body and my soul. Some info required. Have you got a UK owners manual? What exactly does the UK manual say that the Econ mode does? Joe
__________________
Black Betty [Bam a Lam!] '93 UK spec, still languishing Betty Jersey Girl Silver '92 UK [Channel Isles] 40K Jersey Girl @ Mersea Candy Purple Honda Blackbird Plum Dangerous White X2 RVR Mitsubishi 1800GDI. Vantastic 40,000 miles Jersey Girl |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Glasshopper here...
Thanks all for your input guys.
From the owners manual (UK edition) Econ: Transmission changes gears for maximum fuel economy - there is no automatic switching between POWER and NORMAL mode. Maybe the easiest way out of this is to transplant the complete box and harness as I guess that they are interchangeable regarding switching - the only time I use the POWER is the lazy way - right foot buried in the carpet If I did this, then I guess that the ECU would need changing?? And I thought that this was such a good, simple idea..... Going back to my medication, er sorry, meditation now |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Plug and play.
Hi Tony, The box should be a straight swap, the loom should have all the wiring there to suit both, Might be worth getting the TCU also to rid the speed limit thing.
Harvey. Ps Still pondering Joe's wise words.
__________________
One Arm Bloke. Tell it like it is! 95 Lsi. Bordeaux Pearl, Aust. RHD.149,000Kls Subaru BBS wheels. 97 Liberty GX Auto sedan. 320,000Kls. 04 Liberty 30R Auto Premium. 92.000kls. |
#9
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Glasshopper here...
Quote:
This sounds pretty simple to fix. The box is a straight swop, as everyone says. From your description of econ mode, it is the alter ego of the power mode, the Jeckyl to power's Hyde. What the power switch does is lock out normal, keeping the box in power mode all the time. What the econ switch does is lock out power mode, keeping the box in normal mode all the time. Twins, or what?? Manual does the same as econ, except it also won't allow first to be selected, preferring to start in second, and jump up quick to the higher gears. So not rocket science. Take note of what wires are coming from the switches in the configuration you have, and the English box. You are in the lucky position that you can opt to have the new box work on Power, like what you have, or wire the Econ set of wires to your Power button, if you want to go for economy. See Terry Maclane's FAQ for info on what the wires do to force Power mode. Joe
__________________
Black Betty [Bam a Lam!] '93 UK spec, still languishing Betty Jersey Girl Silver '92 UK [Channel Isles] 40K Jersey Girl @ Mersea Candy Purple Honda Blackbird Plum Dangerous White X2 RVR Mitsubishi 1800GDI. Vantastic 40,000 miles Jersey Girl |
|
|