brake pads without shims?

[htyei]

according to brakewarehouse, the axxis metalmasters are so quiet they dont need shims so they dont come with them.

I know many of you guys have them..., true?

[EveryShadeofBlue]

I used the AXXESS Metalmasters without shims and they squealed so badly that with 50% pad remaining I changed them out for OEM pads because I was so tired of the squealing and embarassment. I would suggest you use shims or just go with OEM pads.

Jeff

When I purchased my SVX, someone had just replaced them with the metalmasters and they squealed horribly as well. They were only worn 10% but i replaced them with oem pads and shims. The squealing went away and the braking was considerably smoother.

[htyei]

Yeah, it seems its BS, that t doesnt need shims.. however, I;m such a sucker for new things that I bought


AXXIS Ultimates, they have the shims built right in! TM

I figure, Since I have 40% left int he back I ill just upgrade oem all around if I dont like the AXXIS ones.

[SvXit]

Originally posted by slybry
When I purchased my SVX, someone had just replaced them with the metalmasters and they squealed horribly as well. They were only worn 10% but i replaced them with oem pads and shims. The squealing went away and the braking was considerably smoother.

Yeah, add one more to the list. My Axxis MetalMasters have been squealing like a stuck pig for months now. Betwixt them and the infernal rattling from my center resonator (thank God that's finally been cut and replaced with a straight pipe), I've been getting crappy looks from other drivers -- not to mention people on sidewalks -- whenever I come to a stop. I have even taken out the pads and relubed them and they still started squealing again after two bouts of heavy usage.

I say stick with the O.E.M. pads, but has anyone tried the Carbon Metallics? I'm curious to know whether they are worth it or not.

[vkykam]

2 words: Anti-squeal Gel.

That stuff works. I'm using EL CHEAPO brake pads to the tune of less than $20/set, and they are fine.

Just as long as you get a good coating where the shims would have been, between the caliper piston and the back of the brake pad, along with a good coating of anti-seize on the slider pin and where the pad sits on the caliper, you'll be allright.

VK