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Old 04-11-2002, 01:57 PM
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Obd-ii?

Is the on-board diagnostic computer on SVXs prior to '96 OBD-II compliant? I don't really know too much about the OBD-II standard, but it's my understanding that most (all ?) '96 and new cars are compliant. I don't even know if the standard existed before '96. Can someone enlighten me?
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Old 04-11-2002, 02:08 PM
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96 and 97 was the only year that the SVX was ODB-II. The connector in those years is located where the 'coin holder' is in the earlier models. I hope that helps. It's all i have.

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Old 04-11-2002, 02:29 PM
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In theory, they are all supposed to be ODB-I complient. The only thing is that with ODB-II, you have the same socket for all cars (if I recall).

All SVXes will spit out the info for you from ECU/TCU if you probe it where it is needed.

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Old 04-11-2002, 04:34 PM
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if you probe it where it is needed.

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Old 04-11-2002, 04:51 PM
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There's more info available than just the 'stored in memory' codes that you can retrieve by jumping wires. Most domestic cars were OBDll compliant in '95, all had to be in '96. The main difference is the connector has to be identical on all vehicles (thank you!), adaptors for various cars could cost over $100 each before OBDll.

OBDll also requires that certain parameters be available with a generic scanner - 21 parameters, if I remember correctly. Most OEMs have many, many more available if you access them with their approved scanner.

Aftermarket scanners (professional type) typically $1500- $2500. Add in annual updates, $500 - $1000 for imports and the same again for domestics. If you want to be able to 'flash' the EEPROMs to correct driveability flaws in the firmware that became problems after the cars were engineered and sold, add a bunch more for the ability and that much more for an annual subscription to each OEM's updates.

There's a lot more to this, but I see I've run away from the simple question again....
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Old 04-11-2002, 09:12 PM
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'coin holder'
coin holder? what? where? Oh, you mean that stupid plastic thing that nothing stays in...which converted my seat into the coin holder
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Old 04-12-2002, 01:00 AM
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coin holder? what? where? Oh, you mean that stupid plastic thing that nothing stays in...which converted my seat into the coin holder
On my FWD, whenever I do on the coners, the coins stay in. On my AWD, they fall out even with a small kick. I think the AWD and FWD react differently.

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Old 04-12-2002, 11:05 AM
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On my FWD, whenever I do on the coners, the coins stay in. On my AWD, they fall out even with a small kick. I think the AWD and FWD react differently.

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Old 04-12-2002, 11:10 AM
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On my FWD, whenever I do on the coners, the coins stay in. On my AWD, they fall out even with a small kick. I think the AWD and FWD react differently.

Lwin
When I got my indeglow gauges I failed to see the purpose in it. and I couldn't find anywhere to put the controller for the gauges, so I cut off the back of the coin holder, epoxied in a peice of plexi glass, cut a hole in the plexiglass for the turn nob and the toggle, stuck those in there, and now the rear ash tray is my coin holder. A great improvement
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Old 04-12-2002, 11:35 AM
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When I got my indeglow gauges I failed to see the purpose in it. and I couldn't find anywhere to put the controller for the gauges, so I cut off the back of the coin holder, epoxied in a peice of plexi glass, cut a hole in the plexiglass for the turn nob and the toggle, stuck those in there, and now the rear ash tray is my coin holder. A great improvement
Can you post a pic? I am thinking of doing the same and can't think of a nice way to put it in.

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Old 04-12-2002, 03:22 PM
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That's too bad that only the 96s and 97s are compliant. For the few of you to whom it applies, there's some really cool software out there for laptops and even palms/pocket pcs that lets you actively monitor all kinds of cool operating info.
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Old 04-12-2002, 03:26 PM
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That's too bad that only the 96s and 97s are compliant. For the few of you to whom it applies, there's some really cool software out there for laptops and even palms/pocket pcs that lets you actively monitor all kinds of cool operating info.
If you can look for the right connector, you can get it for you 94 as well. I had look around for it a while back. If you are interesed, I have a ton of info on that as well as a computer setup for your car.

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Old 04-12-2002, 07:45 PM
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Can you post a pic? I am thinking of doing the same and can't think of a nice way to put it in.

Lwin
Good thing for you my hazard thing came in today (thank you small car!!) so I had to rip apart my dash and took some pics, I took some other randomness while i was at it. But here's the link:

http://svx.8m.net/svxinterior/main.html

Let me know what you think

PS, the out of batery thing was flashing when i took these, so the resolution isn't that great on some of the last pics. Plus it was at night.
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Old 04-12-2002, 11:32 PM
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Good thing for you my hazard thing came in today (thank you small car!!) so I had to rip apart my dash and took some pics, I took some other randomness while i was at it. But here's the link:

http://svx.8m.net/svxinterior/main.html

Let me know what you think

PS, the out of batery thing was flashing when i took these, so the resolution isn't that great on some of the last pics. Plus it was at night.
Thanks for the pics

Lwin
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