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Old 06-10-2005, 02:59 AM
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staggered or not

want opinions on staggered wheels on our clean azz rides. how do u think they would look and if u got some post some picks. i had some on my z for three weeks before selling. then i moved to ak and found the other best car in the world. on ebay i was browsing and saw the hp 19 inch i likey. type staggered for key word.
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:11 AM
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Staggered as in wider or different diameters? Either way I don't think it is a great idea. You will hvae a hard time finding appropriate tire sizes to match overall diameters front to back. This is necessary to keep the AWD in good order.
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:09 AM
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staggered as in a little wider tire in the back than the front. for example 19 inch wheel by 8 wide in the front and 19 inch wheel by 9 inch in the back. only an inch wider not no more. that inch shouldnt affect the awd that much. still the same 19 inch circumferance all the way around. now the 19 inch wheel for the awd might be harder to push .granted.
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:15 AM
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think of the tire geometry though.. If you buy the same tires all the way around, then the ones in back will be stretched slihgtly, causing a smaller rolling circumference. If you DON't buy the same tires all the way around, the rolling radii also won't be the same. Both ways you're causing excess wear on the transfer case.

not to mention that theres more room in front than back for wider tires

Now, if you're still interested, some companies (mostly japanese) make wheels specifically for cars like the skyline, Sti, EVo etc. some of these companies make wheels that have wider rears than fronts, and come with tires that makes everything work out. big money involved. (I think longassname had these on his car, but then removed them... )
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Old 06-10-2005, 11:17 AM
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only an inch wider not no more. that inch shouldnt affect the awd that much.
if the tires are more than 1/4" different in circumference, kiss your tranny goodbye.
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:01 PM
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not to mention that theres more room in front than back for wider tires
And from a performance standpoint, wouldn't it be better to put the wider tires up front?
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Old 06-10-2005, 01:32 PM
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And from a performance standpoint, wouldn't it be better to put the wider tires up front?
ehh, not really, when you need more grip, the tranny is sending power equally to all 4 tires. you could argue the weight transfer will help the rears and not the fronts.. but eitherway, this would be a looker mod, not a performance deal i mean, how many people do you know that can burn the tires from a stop on dry pavement? (other than the few 4.44 guys.)
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Old 06-10-2005, 02:05 PM
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how many people do you know that can burn the tires from a stop on dry pavement? (other than the few 4.44 guys.)

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Old 06-10-2005, 03:37 PM
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ehh, not really, when you need more grip, the tranny is sending power equally to all 4 tires. you could argue the weight transfer will help the rears and not the fronts.. but eitherway, this would be a looker mod, not a performance deal i mean, how many people do you know that can burn the tires from a stop on dry pavement? (other than the few 4.44 guys.)
I think he was looking at it from the handling (cornering) perspective. The car tends to understeer, so fix it with wider front tires. I wouldn't do it, but I think that's what he meant.

I couldn't see a good reason to do staggered tires and/or wider tires at the rear end. Makes it impossible to rotate the tires from front to back, and the car has plenty of traction except at the front tires during cornering.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:55 PM
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and the car has plenty of traction except at the front tires during cornering.
Not to mention there are better ways to correct the handling.
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:59 PM
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i was more looking for the deepend well look ethier all the way around or just in the rear. and the input on the handling is extra i will keep in mind before creating a dumb discission. and as for 1/4 inch circumferance u do mean width right. also there is less room in rear than in front for width right so this would not really be to possible without major reconstrutive surgery. 19s with a 7.5 width will work and those are hard to find. 8 would be pushing it right? oh the way my ride will be when complete it will look as nice as possible first then with the most proformance i can pull out of it (mainly refering to wheels and tires). and yes i do like wheels that show no well it looks so clean.
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Old 06-10-2005, 05:47 PM
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No he means circumference. The tires rotating at different RPMs is what kills our diffs.
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Old 06-10-2005, 07:44 PM
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I really don't think you're gonna notice an inch difference in width. If you get enough offset, you can just run 8s all around.
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