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Fantastic speech!!!!

This is one of the best speeches I have ever heard when it comes to fighting terrorism. Some may have a bitter taste in their mouth because it is Newt Gingrich, but ignore who is speaking and simply listen to what he says.
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video...t.gingrich.cnn
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I third his speech. More of the republicans need to voice there opinions, or do something to stop Hillary from leading this country on its death march.
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As for fighting terror, there will be two was to do such.
*1 fight it on there land.
*2 fight it on our land.
Not sure about the rest of you, but I prefer to live where I dont have to worry about which building is going to be bombed next.

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As for fighting terror, there will be two was to do such.
*1 fight it on there land.
*2 fight it on our land.
Not sure about the rest of you, but I prefer to live where I dont have to worry about which building is going to be bombed next.

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The mistake you just made is assuming you know where "their" land is.


YOU DON'T. AND EVEN IF YOU DID IT WOULD NOT MATTER because the issue is far more complex than the genocide you propose.

I'll tell you how to fight terror.

Stop being afraid of ghosts. Stop supporting war mongering idiots. Stop sending people to die senselessly out in some desert against a people that have no connection to any domestic terrorist activity. Stop propogating fear by spreading talk such as this.

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I agree with you about sending soldiers to useless deaths. I have a very big problem with a US soldier dieing to give "democracy" to a bunch of low lifes.
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The mistake you just made is assuming you know where "their" land is.


YOU DON'T. AND EVEN IF YOU DID IT WOULD NOT MATTER because the issue is far more complex than the genocide you propose.

I'll tell you how to fight terror.

Stop being afraid of ghosts. Stop supporting war mongering idiots. Stop sending people to die senselessly out in some desert against a people that have no connection to any domestic terrorist activity. Stop propogating fear by spreading talk such as this.

Think for your self.
So, Let's assume you are president. What would you do? Wait until Iran gets nuclear weapons? Someone with the intelligence of a 8th grader can understand that if they get the ability to produce nukes that exponentially increase the danger that we live in. Not because we should be afraid of Iran nuking us, but for the simple reason that they are not producing them for defensive purposes rather offensive. Iran WILL sell them and has already declared publicly that they would. These are facts not right wing ideas. So I want to know what your plan would be to deal with Iran.
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The mistake you just made is assuming you know where "their" land is.


YOU DON'T. AND EVEN IF YOU DID IT WOULD NOT MATTER because the issue is far more complex than the genocide you propose.

I'll tell you how to fight terror.

Stop being afraid of ghosts. Stop supporting war mongering idiots. Stop sending people to die senselessly out in some desert against a people that have no connection to any domestic terrorist activity. Stop propogating fear by spreading talk such as this.

Think for your self.
Let me ask this question. Do you know where to start? Do you know how to defeat an imposing threat? The problem is not just in our back yard. If there was a forest fire burning out of control, would you wait until it was in your back yard to fight it, or would you help to fight it before it got to you or your friends and family.

I personally do think for myself, and am not going to be steamrolled by political BS, and soft lifeless puppets. This country did not get to where its at today, by rolling over and playing dead when faced with a challenge, or imposing threat. I do believe our national anthem says "land of the free, and home of the brave". Not land of the controlled, and home of the gullible.

As for our soldiers . Show some respect, and dignity for the men and women risking there lives to make this country a place we like to call home. The deaths that occur are tragic, and painful. But do people call the soldiers lost in or historic battles shameless deaths? No, because without there bravery, most of us would not be here today.
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Ok there it goes. Computer glitch.

Here is my opinion.

If you think that is a "great" speech,

I kindly ask you to ge the hell out of my country, you fear mongering poof.

Stop spreading this propagandous trash.




YOU CANNOT "WIN" A "WAR" ON "TERROR". It's a fantasy of an illusion of a pipedream.

Jesus H. listen to all the wide sweeping generalizing and outright false statements he keeps making. Matter of fact, DON'T listen to him. He's talking nonsense.



WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE ANYTHING TO ISLAM UNLESS WE PROVOKE THEM LIKE WE (YOU!) ARE DOING.

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...Stop spreading this propagandous trash...
I agree. Olbermann spreads enough propegandous trash to overflow our landfills, we don't need anymore.

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We can all pick and choose what we repeat from what we hear from our military. My best friend is an army ranger and my next door neighbor is a force recon marine. Bothe have done time in Iraq and come back safely, and both have requested to go back ASAP. To say support is waning is an understatement but please do not make it sound like our troops are dead set against this.

About Iran: To ignore Iran is to wallow in sheer ignorance of the potential evil that could come upon us. The Iranians are ruled by an insane dictator who would love nothing less than for you and me to die horrific deaths and go to "hell" Do you wait and say "oops" when a massive attack happens that makes 9/11 look like nothing? I sincerely wish you were right about them not being a threat, but in the words of Edmund Burke, "All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing".
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Ok... Lets slow down here for a minute. I agree that the current administration may have been able to handle our current state of affairs differently. I do believe that more people have lost there lives than needed. I do in no way intend to point fingers, or insult your views. However, for our country so sit back and watch, as a country develops with open threats, means of destructive nuclear power, would be as sad as the day they use them in our country or any other.
9-11 was a tragic day for this country. But can you imagine if a nuclear device was deployed. It doesent take something the size of a jumbo jet to kill 200 or 300 thousand people and render a large area of land uninhabitable. That threat to me is worth doing something about.
Not only that, but what about oil? That region supplies us, and many other nations with a large portion of the worlds oil supply. I dont think it would be good to leave the area up to groups of people, who would love to put our nation, as well as many others into a depression.
We are not there for one sole reason, and you are right. The enemy is here at home as well. So why would we give that threat the means to do us bad. The situation is complex. Far more complex than I could passably comprehend. The enemy is smarter and there tactics have evolved. Shouldn't we do something about it?
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